Do you wish yor were ret*d, or castrated?

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03 Feb 2008, 10:19 am

Chris Burke is an incredibly high-functioning young man. He is an example of what can happen when people with Down Syndrome are raised by loving parents who care and nurture them.



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03 Feb 2008, 10:36 am

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ret*d. Because if I were ret*d I wouldn't have the mental capacity to perceive the condescensions and the smirks on the faces of those who take me for an idiot.

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Castrated. Because if I were castrated - psychologically castrated - I wouldn't long for something I'll never have.




I don't want to always be at odds on this board, but I think comments like that against mentally ret*d people are just wrong. They do have brain capacity and feelings.

Sorry, dude.



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03 Feb 2008, 10:39 am

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I don't want to always be at odds on this board, but I think comments like that against mentally ret*d people are just wrong. They do have brain capacity and feelings.

Sorry, dude.


He didn't say they didn't have feelings, and it is true that mentally-retarded people often lack the mental capacity to pick up on subtle social nuances like condescension.


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03 Feb 2008, 10:39 am

Sometimes I wish I had a more obvious disability. When I walk up to people they expect me to be normal, and it's very hard on me. If I was in a wheelchair or acted more autistic, there wouldn't be that pressure.

I do wish I didn't have breasts and genitalia. I don't need them; they're like my tonsils or my appendix. Above, they are sacks of fat that get in my way and will give me back pain cancer. Below, they are blood-leaking, bothersome holes that will give me yeast infections and cancer.


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03 Feb 2008, 10:41 am

This is a curious discussion, but from the outside looking it, wouldn't, by making oneself ret*d, confirm that the bully has one? Those with AS are just as intelligent as neurotypicals, often with much more advanced specialized knowledge. Why give in to the ignorant publics view of a "disability" when, in fact, you possess the capabilities of being much more intelligent in specialized areas?


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03 Feb 2008, 10:41 am

Phagocyte wrote:
NewportBeachDude wrote:
I don't want to always be at odds on this board, but I think comments like that against mentally ret*d people are just wrong. They do have brain capacity and feelings.

Sorry, dude.


He didn't say they didn't have feelings, and it is true that mentally-retarded people often lack the mental capacity to pick up on subtle social nuances like condescension.


Okay. I take back the post. I don't want to argue. I just think it's wrong.



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03 Feb 2008, 10:43 am

I can live independently, and I'm a bass with a good singing voice, which would be rendered incapable if I were castrated. So I say no to both...



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03 Feb 2008, 10:43 am

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I don't want to always be at odds on this board, but I think comments like that against mentally ret*d people are just wrong. They do have brain capacity and feelings.

Sorry, dude.


He didn't say they didn't have feelings, and it is true that mentally-retarded people often lack the mental capacity to pick up on subtle social nuances like condescension.


Okay. I take back the post. I don't want to argue. I just think it's wrong.


Fine, you got it. I don't see how stating the fact that mentally ret*d people are less intelligent (the very thing that defines their label of being "ret*d") is wrong.


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03 Feb 2008, 10:50 am

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Sometimes I wish I had a more obvious disability. When I walk up to people they expect me to be normal, and it's very hard on me. If I was in a wheelchair or acted more autistic, there wouldn't be that pressure.


I understand what you mean. I feel like that too, whenever something happens to me because somebody else didn't knew it was autism that made me do something different from the norm. But I also made the experience that even when one acts obviously autistic, it isn't obvious to other people, as they don't know autistic symptoms. They either think one's acting or that one is truley insane, which is deeply frustrating when their opinion somehow affects and limit one.

I think there are certain behaviours that make other people think that an individual is disabled, but this impression is not always true and I don't know what behaviour makes people think one is disabled or just behaving badly on purpose or probably 'crazy'. People tend to draw wrong conclusions too often based on their readings of someone's body language.



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03 Feb 2008, 10:58 am

Phagocyte wrote:
NewportBeachDude wrote:
Phagocyte wrote:
NewportBeachDude wrote:
I don't want to always be at odds on this board, but I think comments like that against mentally ret*d people are just wrong. They do have brain capacity and feelings.

Sorry, dude.


He didn't say they didn't have feelings, and it is true that mentally-retarded people often lack the mental capacity to pick up on subtle social nuances like condescension.


Okay. I take back the post. I don't want to argue. I just think it's wrong.


Fine, you got it. I don't see how stating the fact that mentally ret*d people are less intelligent (the very thing that defines their label of being "ret*d") is wrong.



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03 Feb 2008, 8:51 pm

One of my biggest fears is becoming too disabled to take care of myself. Even a small decline in mental capacity would be hard to take. I hate when I have a mental block and can't think of the right words to say.



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03 Feb 2008, 9:37 pm

9CatMom wrote:
One of my biggest fears is becoming too disabled to take care of myself. Even a small decline in mental capacity would be hard to take. I hate when I have a mental block and can't think of the right words to say.


I feel the SAME way! HECK, I'm trying to get BETTER. Still, I am about as old as you, as I recall, and that is an age where you start wondering how fast you will go down hill. Some live to be TWICE my age, and seem like they are 30, but MANY don't even go another 20 years without REALLY going down hill.



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03 Feb 2008, 9:48 pm

Mw99 wrote:
ret*d. Because if I were ret*d I wouldn't have the mental capacity to perceive the condescensions and the smirks on the faces of those who take me for an idiot.

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Castrated. Because if I were castrated - psychologically castrated - I wouldn't long for something I'll never have.


Would you rather be NT or ret*d?


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04 Feb 2008, 8:18 am

Uh, NO???


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04 Feb 2008, 8:42 am

A homicidal psychopath or someone with severe clinical depression is probably someone the OP would prefer to be. You kinda kill those who slight you, and with the latter you probably don't care about anything.

I don't know how you can go about being either of these as the former is due to a number of factors (many of which you have no say over), and same with the latter.

The two you list are easy to accomplish. Go ahead if you want to, you don't even need to wish (a hammer will do).

And me, I used to wish that I was the homicidal psychopath. Not anymore.



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04 Feb 2008, 12:04 pm

i wouldnt want to be either. :lol:


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