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Yes, I've known about it for a while now 34%  34%  [ 13 ]
Yes, but I've just now heard of it and it seems to fit me 24%  24%  [ 9 ]
No, I have heard of it but don't think it describes me 5%  5%  [ 2 ]
No, I have never heard of it and don't think I have it 21%  21%  [ 8 ]
I don't know/can't tell if I have it or not 16%  16%  [ 6 ]
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13 Mar 2008, 8:51 am

I used to open my mouth and the words would come out. I never knew what they were going to be until they were said. And I have untidy handwritng.

So yes.

These days I carefully examine what I say as I am saying it though, as to not make too many faux pas.


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13 Mar 2008, 10:53 am

My speech tends to get messed up when I'm stressed, but I don't know if it fits the definition of cluttering. I think it might be somewhere between cluttering and stuttering, as though there's a cluttering/stuttering spectrum.



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13 Mar 2008, 8:03 pm

definitely me, although some of them are very situational.

My writing improved greatly through high school because of my english teacher. he provided us with a format for writing essays that i've adapted to many other forms of writing. It shows you an initially simple structure that gets slightly more complex as you plan your essay. As well as using that tool, i also try to focus on the point i'm trying to convey and plan my paragraph before writing.

the only symptoms that are still noticeable to others are my poor handwriting, and my occasional lack of fluency while giving long answers (i will sometimes forget why i was talking about something and the point i was trying to convey).

I always thought a lot of these symptoms would be attributed to my adhd. poor attention could be the reason for lack of fluency in speech if i start thinking about something else and lose my train of thought.

the poor listening skills, frequent interruption, and poor turn taking in conversation really depends on the situation. if i'm in a debate this will happen, if i'm talking to someone about themselves i am usually an excellent listener. i enjoy hearing about people's past and learning about them. it gives me a view into how others think, which i've always been interested in.



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15 Mar 2008, 5:22 am

I recognize the "thought explosion", the "need to revise", and the difficulty of giving long, fluent answers. Perhaps even the handwriting-thing.

But that's about all.


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15 Mar 2008, 9:02 am

No, I don't think this is me at all. I'm an introvert and tend to express myself well in writing. My handwriting isn't fancy, but it is legible. I sometimes edit myself when speaking. Somebody mentioned brain fart, which applies to me also. However, I'm not a clutterer.



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15 Mar 2008, 2:01 pm

Desolation_boi wrote:


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Clutterers often also have reading and writing disorders, especially sprawling, disorderly handwriting, which poorly integrate ideas and space.[4] A clutterer described the feeling associated with a clutter as:

“ It feels like 1) about twenty thoughts explode on my mind all at once, and I need to express them all, 2) that when I'm trying to make a point, that I just remembered something that I was supposed to say, so the person can understand, and I need to interrupt myself to say something that I should have said before, and 3) that I need to constantly revise the sentences that I'm working on, to get it out right. [5] ”

Another clutterer wrote on an Internet support group:

“ I just seem to rush through the words, and often slur words together and/or mumble—and as a result I often have to slow down, concentrate, and repeat myself.


Most of that certainly describes me...

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Perform better when speaking under stress


Depends on the type of stress/situation.

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Have a hard time fluently giving long answers


Often, at least in person. Online this is not at all a problem. When it is about a topic I'm interested in and have memorized a lot of information on, I don't have this problem at all.

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Have hasty, repetitious, uninhibited, messy handwriting


Definately!

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Have little to no fear of their speech and are careless in speech


Often.

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Are typically outgoing or extroverted


That isn't at all me, unless I'm either on drugs or extremely sleep deprived.

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Typically were never very fluent


Depends. I've been pretty fluent in writing for many years. Talking to people in person, not as much.

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Do not know exactly what they want to say, but say it anyway


Definately me!

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Have disorganized, tangential, grammatically incorrect speech with word substitutions


Sometimes.

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Are impatient listeners, frequently interrupt, and have poor turn-taking skills in conversation


Definately me.




In conclusion: I'm probably not a 'clutterer', but I have a lot of characteristics of one.