emotional vs logical thinking

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You don't have to lack empathy or emotions to be unable to express them properly, or to think logically. I think I'm extremely sympathetic, but other people think I'm callous because I can't work out how to convey my sympathy as communication and I don't let my sympathy influence my decisions unless I was already unsure what to do.

I have been a logical thinker (as logic in human decisions goes), but have found that if I don't try to work out how I or other people will respond emotionally then my logic is wrong and the results are bad. So I try to incorporate more emotion into my decisions because they will be in the results.

This doesn't describe my experience of NTs at all! I feel like they're reading from a Choose Your Own Social Adventure novel, where certain reactions in their conversation partner lead them naturally if not easily to choosing certain other responses. Their emotions usually don't come into it, unless you try to talk about the supposedly taboo topics of religion and politics and sex. There is reflex involved, but it isn't emotional.

NTs in my experience are mostly hostile to emotion (You're causing a scene!) and consider it completely controllable. I control how much my emotions influence my thoughts, because there's a lag between having/showing them and understanding their meaning so they don't necessarily feel like they are part of me. I don't control how my emotions come out: usually too much, too little, delayed, or wrong. External emotions never serve me well socially and most people think I'm trying to be mean or to manipulate them when I really can't help laughing or crying. NTs are extremely unsympathetic to emotion unless they can understand and mostly agree with what it means or you can explain yourself.

I dunno... my thinking confuses me. I seem to be very analytical and more logical than a lot of people, but I feel sometimes emotion overwhelms me.

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Could someone please explain to me how someone could think emotionally? I find these two words/ideas to be contradictory, and therefore incompatible and nonsensical.

i'm logical... but have been told (recently even) i have the emotional level of a 3rd grader

I am certainly not a predominantly logical thinker, but I wouldn't say I am a predominantly emotional one either. Sure, emotions do play a large part in my thinking, but they do not seem to be its main component.

If there is any single word that could describe my thinking style, it would probably be intuitive (or intuitive-visual). I depend a lot on hunches, insights, guesses, gut feelings that come from some deeper part of me, and I often feel as if I were drifting through life relying mostly on this sixth sense, groping my way through the dark, as it were. I make lots of blunders, but it still seems to be the right way to do things, somehow.

I feel a lot, but I often cannot describe my feelings. Perhaps partly it is because language is limited when it comes to describing emotion; there are just a few basic words (and concepts), like "joy", "sadness", "anger", "grief" etc., while in reality there are infinite shades, hues of each, and I honestly don't know whether there are any names for the majority of them. When I try to really convey to someone else what is it that I feel, at best I resort to talking in metaphor, and at worst, I just get lost, even when the feelings themselves are quite clear to me.

On some level, I'd fall into the more emotional grouping rather than logical category.

However, even "emotionally-oriented" mentality contains range. I have much conflicting emotion, so my subjective selfishness is moderated/mediated by its opposite, guilt/fear/inhibition. Saying "emotional" doesn't mean just one thing or sort of person, despite the easy-to-call-to-mind stereotypes (extreme examples that make strong negative impression).

Also, logic & emotion seem like "chicken & the egg" to me-interdependent & symbiotic, built on foundations & outgrowths of each other. Where mental content begins is indivisible mystery, on an everyday level (I understand it at microscopic level when reading neurology books but I get confused in trying to apply that level of analysis to my own life at this scale).

Basically, I listen to what my body seems to say to me: through my brain (what I can perceive of it) and the rest of my bodily systems (to extent I can interpret that communication). Doesn't everyone ? Perhaps we each just have different content/experiences in our brains & bodies, and/or we negotiate the balance between them individually-so the outcomes are unique.

i would love to be one of crusader knigths they were so brave

Perhaps you have not missed out on all of the fun quite yet. There is a new crusade underway in the holy land, at least that is what i have been hearing lately.

knigths in 2000 centtory? they are doomed automatic weapons will win them

Knights with automatics themselves. And smart bombs, and tanks, and all sorts of weapons.

I'm sorry, my last comment was something of a failed attempt at cynical humor. I do agree that anyone that has ever or will ever go to war over there was or will be brave, even if i do not agree with the reasons they were sent.

yes....i was thinking about year 1500 when crusaders swamped so called "holy land" and i do whis they should concuer those castles at time......but then again thats just me and my thoughs
but hey at least those times figths were fair...or at least more fair then now