Chelating kids... what happens when they are adults?

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Oh please.

What's so 'oh please' about that? Nothing exactly controversial there, nothing unscientific... not up to your usual standard, Beau!

And here I always thought that you went to the doctor and they told you what treatments you should consider--not the other way around. I have a problem with someone deciding that they or their kid should have chelation based off of things they found via Google. I've never suggested a particular treatment to a doctor, and the fact that some people do boggles my mind. Good physicians do not take suggestions from people whose medical degree comes from Google. Ack.

My doctor gives me things that I know will have no effect. She gives me things from corrupt companies like Merck who are constantly caught killing people and comitting fraud. She doesn't listen to a word I say... of course I won't listen to her. And I know many, many more in that same situation. There's nothing wrong with researching things on your own and then going to the doctor to find out more about it, in fact I'd say that's prudent. I'd rather know what she's giving me and find out more about it than just 'take this itll make you better' like she tells me. Doctors really don't know everything.

LeKiwi,
I don't want to get into the chelation thing,( I don't know much about it) and I don't really care where you get your references or information (Google or elswhere.)
But why go to a doctor where there is no mutual respect? Geeze, why give time and money to someone and you don't even trust them to follow their directons?
I don't understand.

Merle

This sounds like you're probably better off finding a doctor that you can talk with.

I'm not by any means advocating blind acceptance of doctors' authority. Patients should absolutely ask questions and do outside research. If they don't like the doctor's methods, find another one. I've done that several times. What I don't approve of is deciding that you "want" you or your child to have a certain medical treatment, and then going out to find a doctor who will give you what you already "want." I don't think reading about chelation and autism on the Internet, and then running off to find a doctor who will prescribe a completely off-label use, is responsible. Patient self-advocacy is great; do-it-yourself medicine is not.

I think it should go without saying that the parent should get the advice of the doctor in question first, and I can't really think of any who wouldn't? If they did that'd be so irresponsible, specially dealing with chelating agents. I mean, fine, if that's what you think you want for your kid then go and find a doctor who does it, but get their opinion first - I'm sure they'd probably do their own investigations first before giving out the treatment??

And yes, I'm trying to get a new doctor but unfortunately it's proving difficult. Every clinic I ring up has the same answer:
"What's wrong with your current doctor?"
"*long list of reasons*"
"Well you just have to stay with her, there's nothing wrong with that."



Thankfully I tend to only go to the dr in extreme circumstances, the rest of the time I'm more than happy for my knowledge of herbal medicine to lean on and 'self-medicate' ('alternative/natural medicine' is my obsession so I know a fair bit about it).

Im all for alternative medicine. But I dont think chelation is an alternative medicine, and if I had a child I would be very vary of chelation, it doesnt sound safe, there are far better ways to detox from metals anyway than injecting stuff into a childs veins.

Anyway these metals are everywhere, you would have to live in a bubble to avoid them, so the child would have to be detoxed from the metals every 3-4 months.

I find the idea of avoiding food allergens a good alternative though. If an aspie is reacting badly to a known food group it can effect the neurochemicals too. I am hypoglycaemic and I found that without sugar I am far calmer and my depression decreases a lot.

Last edited by zen_mistress on 05 May 2008, 5:12 am, edited 1 time in total.

Chelation is definitely not 'alternative medicine' (whatever that means...). I don't know who started that one. It's almost like another smear campaign against true natural medicine.. lump the dodgy and controversial regimes in with the real, proven stuff so it collectively looks worse.

No, I just assumed that you viewed it as an alternative medicine because you are into alternative medicine, and you seem to also be interested in chelation as a means to remove metals.

I guess it shows i shouldnt assume though....

Haha, I'm not really into it at all, but I figure if someone wants to do it and figures it'll help then that's their choice, as long as they go somewhere safe and known and everything else.

Love your quote by the way... Gibran is my favourite poet/guru/thing.

Interesting question, I wondered that when I was reading stupid head Jenny McCarthy's book. She did mention when Evan had a milkshake his eyes glazed over and he regressed. I also read an article on a woman who "cured" her sons autism with diet, she allowed her boy to eat what she called "ugly foods" at parties. Afterwards his ears would turn red, and he would become aggressive. I haven't heard of anyone who reverted all the way back to autism though.

Well, there's no doubt kids react badly to a lot of the junk in foods these days... maybe the way some of them react mimics some of the signs of autism? For example, one of my brothers tries to climb the curtains and runs around in a manic craze for three hours after he's had anything with red colouring in it, or a half-glass of coke. There's no reason why other kids would do the opposite...

I totally know the feeling after a milkshake though, they just about kill me, I feel so ill all I can do is just sit and stare...

Thanks .

A+ for Joke about autism. It very funny!