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17 May 2008, 10:40 am

If someone is being rude to me, I've found people still don't side with me. It's stupid considering I stand up for the same people that never side with me. If you have people like that around you, they will only continously piss you off so make friends that know what friendship means.

If I'm wrong about something, I don't expect friends to side with me.



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17 May 2008, 2:20 pm

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Yeah, all sorts of stuff like that happens to me. I have come to the conclusion that it is not actually an aspie thing, but a biochemical thing. Animal studies have shown that animals with the highest levels of cortisol (a stress hormone) in their blood, will be the most unsucessful within the pack.

Im starting to not care about the social system that is around me, what I want now is to figure out what behaviours I would like to change the most (ie learning not to say things that upset others) and then just relax and not give a damn about what is happening with people and their system. I just want to relax and let it go. Then I wont be the one producing all the cortisol if I dont care.



Don't forget about the friendship rule. I also figured out people tend to side with their friends no matter what. So if you got in a fight with someone, that person's friends will side with him, even if he started it.


Yes, I agree with you about that. I think people see friends with rose coloured glasses, and think they can do no wrong, and if there was any wrong, the outsider started it.

I can have feelings like that towards friends too, though I try to remain unbiased...


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17 May 2008, 2:27 pm

To be honest it depends on the subject, like in science most people automatically choose the answer I pick, which is often very funny because Im usually wrong when people side with me :P


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17 May 2008, 2:33 pm

I would say a slight majority of the time people side with me. I'm very good at recapping how the written rules applying to a situation put me in the right. Generally, I at least get acknowledgments like "at least on paper you're right". I put people in a position where they almost have to declare the other party is above the rules/law in order to side against me.


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17 May 2008, 2:40 pm

All the time, especially when I was in school. Bullies would pick on me and any time I defended myself, everyone took the side of the bullies. It was like I was a bad guy for standing up for myself and the bullies were such good people. I had friends but really, no one was on my side. :(


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17 May 2008, 6:43 pm

No one ever - ever - ever - ever - ever - ever - takes my side.
It's like everyone has to think it's cool to be in one big group against some loner and it's always the same thing in every group and no one ever gets bored of it or has second thoughts. . .



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18 May 2008, 12:38 am

SamAckary wrote:
To be honest it depends on the subject, like in science most people automatically choose the answer I pick, which is often very funny because Im usually wrong when people side with me :P


I remember one time I was in a class and needed to do some practice teaching. The topic I was given was teaching how to figure out how many years two things happened (which is complicated by A.D. and B.C.).

So, I went up and I started explaining the rules. If both years are in A.D. or B.C. you subtract. If the years have both a B.C. and A.D. you need to add them together and take away one because there is no year 0.

The professor corrected me and said I just needed to add. I was surprised and wrote a quick number line on the board to visually show that she was wrong. Despite having a undeniable proof of my correctness right there on the board the whole class turned on me and sided with the professor.

Ironically, a few minutes earlier everyone expressed dismay when, in an earlier part of the lesson, I explained that the century and millenium really started on 2001. They thought it unconscionable that students were being taught the wrong year across the country despite popular opinion.

Bunch of freakin' hypocrits.



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18 May 2008, 9:35 am

More times than I can count.


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18 May 2008, 9:58 am

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As a group, Aspies aren't really that cohesive at all. On WP I've seen no sign of cohesiveness beyond any other group. How can we unite for the purposes of world supremacy if we can't stop the petty bickering?

ALA, I remain unimpressed by your claims.


True - there isn't much cohesiveness between Aspies. It's how our minds work, though. You can't really have a group effort if people don't really identify with each other, aside from common symptoms. That's just the way it is. Que sera, sera.

As for ALA - I didn't get the memo on world domination. I just joined up because I thought a batch of us were going to give the trolls a hard time. That didn't materialize (maybe because some of us were accidental trolls on other forums), so I sort of lost enthusiasm along the way. I still like to give trolls a hard time, though. It's one of the small joys in life I can't seem to pass up.


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18 May 2008, 10:04 am

People don't usually side with me, either, unless I argue my point correctly. In order to do that, I have to do it debate-style, keeping a mental list of pros and cons about the subject at hand. If I argue logically rather than emotionally, I usually get my way. Online? No. I don't win a single argument online, ever. I just cruise by, toss in my 2 cent's worth and let people say what they will. My lack of empathy kicks in here, too. I have a hard time seeing other people's points of view if they don't jive with my own - unless they present irrefutable facts (not opinions) and only the facts themselves will change my mind. But, I don't hold people's opinions against them, either, because more often than not, I can agree with them about other things. (Unless they're sociopaths, and in that case they don't have anything worth saying, to start with).


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18 May 2008, 10:12 am

Side orders topic

Two Aspies=three opinions! :lol:

Three NTs=one opinion! :roll:


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18 May 2008, 3:08 pm

:lmao:


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18 May 2008, 3:24 pm

Thomas1138 wrote:
SamAckary wrote:
To be honest it depends on the subject, like in science most people automatically choose the answer I pick, which is often very funny because Im usually wrong when people side with me :P


I remember one time I was in a class and needed to do some practice teaching. The topic I was given was teaching how to figure out how many years two things happened (which is complicated by A.D. and B.C.).

So, I went up and I started explaining the rules. If both years are in A.D. or B.C. you subtract. If the years have both a B.C. and A.D. you need to add them together and take away one because there is no year 0.

The professor corrected me and said I just needed to add. I was surprised and wrote a quick number line on the board to visually show that she was wrong. Despite having a undeniable proof of my correctness right there on the board the whole class turned on me and sided with the professor.

Ironically, a few minutes earlier everyone expressed dismay when, in an earlier part of the lesson, I explained that the century and millenium really started on 2001. They thought it unconscionable that students were being taught the wrong year across the country despite popular opinion.

Bunch of freakin' hypocrits.


Where was this? How long ago? Assuming education hasn't completely been dumbed down by outcome based education, sources defining the term "century" with illustrations of the time between 1AD an 1BC might have helped you. Did you even try to survey what they thought AD (Anno Domini - Year of Our Lord) means? Any moron SHOULD be able to deduce that if it were to mean After Death (ARRGGGHHHHH), you would subtract 33 from the year.


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18 May 2008, 9:17 pm

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People don't usually side with me, either, unless I argue my point correctly. In order to do that, I have to do it debate-style, keeping a mental list of pros and cons about the subject at hand. If I argue logically rather than emotionally, I usually get my way. Online? No. I don't win a single argument online, ever. I just cruise by, toss in my 2 cent's worth and let people say what they will. My lack of empathy kicks in here, too. I have a hard time seeing other people's points of view if they don't jive with my own - unless they present irrefutable facts (not opinions) and only the facts themselves will change my mind. But, I don't hold people's opinions against them, either, because more often than not, I can agree with them about other things. (Unless they're sociopaths, and in that case they don't have anything worth saying, to start with).



It seems like non aspies have a hard time seeing my point of view because they sure don't listen to me when I have a problem. Instead they act like I am wrong because they sure aren't listening to me and not taking my side.