I told my psychologist I wanted to kill myself...

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She probably feels that she'd better play it safe and assume you are serious, in case you really ARE serious and try to commit suicide, which then she'd in turn feel guilty that she did nothing...

Like you, I learned the hard way that suicide is not something to joke about...got expelled from school for a month because of it, and I had to see a social worker once a week Hopefully your consequences are much less severe.

No need to be so harsh. This is an ASD forum, I'm pretty sure we've all said some pretty stupid things in our lives.

If someone wants to kill themselves, why can't people just let them? I would rather be dead than put away and would probably kill myself to get out of being put in a hospital.

But it's that choice that must be examined very closely.

Although depression actually makes people MORE ACCURATE at seeing the world around them in certain respects... depression negatively affects a person's ability to make accurate predictions about their own life. While their predictions may be true sometimes, the picture is usually more grim than is accurate, even though they may feel very sure about it.

In cases where a depressed person is using their prediction of the future as reason to commit suicide, it makes good logical sense to have somebody discuss it with them - somebody with a clinical distance from the problem. In cases where it is NOT depression, but solid logic - for example, if someone has pain management issues and not long to live, and is considering euthenasia... it's good to check in anyway. The purpose of a therapist here isn't to protect life at all costs (although there are laws that would say otherwise), but to make sure poor thinking and psychological conditions aren't causing the patient to make a decision he/she wouldn't be making in a clear frame of mind.

Sadly, the worst illusion depression causes is that the depressed person is thinking clearly, when in fact this is not the case.

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Last edited by Sorenna on 31 May 2008, 9:59 am, edited 1 time in total.

I will be seeing my doctor, and my regular therapist next week, (the one who just keeps saying, "whats on your mind"?).
I was going to tell them about my recent incedent with the Police smashing my door and invading my sanctuary, and how its the nearest Ive come to suicide for many years.

But reading this post has me worried.

In the UK, do they lock you up and electrifry your brain if they think you might be suicidal?

It's not something to laugh about.

I just wished people would be kinder to people, it's probably a person who is looking for some love, respect and attention who thinks about suicide.

And what guarantee do we have that a person who is otherwise mentally healthy is thinking clearly?

Similarly, what guarantee do we have that a person who IS depressed is not thinking clearly? Do we know for sure that a person who is depressed is not thinking clearly?

The illusion of clarity is caused by a kind of selective thinking. The depressed person's mind picks a set of information that creates its own context so that it even seems to be accurate taken "in context." It seemd clear because it lacks the ambiguity that goes with more realistic thinking.

Correct, but couldn't it be argued that most people, regardless of their mental health, lack the ability to always think clearly?

Yes, but isn't that just the human condition?

I learned a long time ago, not that I consistently apply this principle, that the less I worried about making mistakes the fewer I made. I became more accurate and more steady the less I tried to be accurate and steady and the more I focused on the job at hand.

It wasn't very smart of you to joke about committing suicide. There are people that do say they are going to do it but say they are just kidding. But then one day they actually do it so of course people are going to take it seriously and not listen to you when you tell them you were just joking. It's the same as joking about killing, you joke about killing someone, you find yourself dealing with the police because someone took you seriously even if you said you were just joking. Lot of people take those jokes seriously.

Besides it's the shrinks job to be alert for suicidal patients and if someone says they are going to kill themselves, they're supposed to take action, not ignore it. Only a bad shrink would do that. A good shrink wouldn't, they would still take it seriously even if the patient said he or she was just joking.

Y'know.... I was once caught with a lock-knife in school (was considering stabbing a bully with it)... but got out of "trouble", persay, by claiming I'd brought it to commit seppuku. I spent the rest of the evening pretending to be suicidal while having various talks with the head of year and head of lower-school... and curiously, nothing more was made of it.
My mother wondered why I was late leaving school, and I had to explain to her with a smirk that I'd feigned suicidal tendencies to avoid getting in trouble for having the knife in school.
I don't remember whether I got my knife back or not.... I was more amused at having got out of the PE (Rugby) lesson. It was a real triumph for me.


So... I'll note now: Don't mind the people who are telling you it was a bad idea. Psychologists are just tools... brain-washing tools. f*****g with their heads is only giving them a taste of their own medicine. And if the lady is silly enough not to believe that you were joking, the correct response is to KEEP MOCKING HER FOR IT until she gets that you're most definitely not suicidal. Take the piss out of her for falling for your joke until she gets over it.
Remember: She isn't trying to help you; she is trying to manipulate you and pressure you into being what other people want you to be. She is trying to strip your individuality from you. RESIST.


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I am sorry. I am moderator on a self harm forum and there are so many members who tell their psychs/psychologists/cpns etc the same* but they mean it and they just send them home, then they end up acing on their feelings/impulses and ending up in hospital/psych wards. It just annoys me that if people do this then they are more likely to react to others in the same way. I didn't much like being in a psych ward. They are not the nicest of places.

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Last edited by craola on 30 May 2008, 8:58 am, edited 1 time in total.

Well... honestly, the shrinks shouldn't get away with that sort of nonsense just because they can't take a joke. Bowing to their stupid, pissy way of doing things is not the answer. We have to resist their ways and force them to open their mind to differences instead!

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