Bizarreness of NT Thought

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Then people wonder why they can not fly.

Well that depends in which way you want to fly

It is not. There is no 'other people's reality'. We all might perceive reality differently, but it's the same reality we're all perceiving.

But what is reality, is it truth, how can we be sure that it is truth, scientests are always makeing asumptions, in my point almost nothing can be counted on. Every single person has to set there own truths and fill in parts that can not be decided on.

Yes so true Bradleigh.

What is real to you is not necessarily real to me ducasse.
So reality is what you make.

Well, like I said, we all may PERCEIVE reality differently, but if we don't make that one assumption - that we're all differently perceiving the same reality - then there is no possibility of communication, of understanding, of being able to do anything. So, sure, Science is based on assumptions, but they're assumptions from which you can make predictions & these predictions will hold true in every case. & if you discover a case where something you predicted doesn't hold true, well then you discard the assumption from which you derived the prediction & try to find another assumption that will hold true for that case, & for all previous cases where your discarded assumption did hold true. This is the only way we have of knowing things, & to theorise that the original base assumption is false, well, I don't see where that gets you? It might, in a technical sense, be impossible to disprove, but there's no reason to think it's true, & it isn't helpful.
Our 'own truths' is a meaningless phrase, if it's just true for you, it isn't true. When people say 'it's true for me', I hear 'it's my opinion, & I'm not interested in examining whether it's true or not'.

I agree and disagree

Ok, well, let's say I forcefully make a point to you that I am convinced is true, that is based on reality. & lets say I'm wrong, & you know I'm wrong. I wouldn't just be wrong for me, I'd be wrong you too, & wrong for everyone.
If I believe I can walk through solid matter, & should I choose to test this assumption by running into a brick wall, reality will quickly disabuse me of the notion.

but if it's not wrong to you, then it's not wrong and that is your reality.

How about this, reality is what we touch, see, hear, taste and smell, these are all controlled by electrical signals in our brain, if you had enough will you could control them. Think about this in terms of the movie the Matrix, someone could force a reality onto you but with enough power in that world ran entirly by electrical signals someone can stop bullets. The movies are actualy a good point to make actualy as in the game a character points out that past experiences can never be counted on.

@ SIXLUCY
Sure... I guess... in an extreme situation even after running into the wall I might still think I wasn't wrong. I suppose you could phrase that as 'it's not wrong for me'. But if I was so pleased by my new power that I kept demonstrating it by running repeatedly into walls then the real actual external reality would kill me, regardless of whether I expected that to happen or not.

@ Bradleigh
well, ok, one could imagine that. But even within this thought experiment you're talking about people are changing reality so that it more closely matches what they want it to be. So it's still one external reality, perceived differently by different people, & then some person changing it by some vague electronic super-will power.

It is not what you can see...

It's what you cant see and many people cannot see the higher levels of reality

The Matrix has you

Follow the white rabbit

Especially if you are schizophrenic.

What is it that you refuse to accept as real, sixlucy?

I dont refuse to accept anything. Everything is real to me.