What qualifies as a meltdown and what doesn't?

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22 Jul 2008, 11:28 pm

I'm like you...I don't flip out. I hide... Sometimes I just need to hide.



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22 Jul 2008, 11:29 pm

http://life-with-aspergers.blogspot.com/2007/11/aspie-meltdown-insiders-point-of-view.html

There's a link. Anyone got one any better? I mean like a scientific type. Something with categories, tables, comparisons. Stuff that's concrete. Personal experience is fine, but I'd rather see something concrete.


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23 Jul 2008, 12:12 am

SIXLUCY wrote:
Interesting.. I wonder if my melt downs as teenager and adult were really meltdowns or breakdowns. As a child I would scream, cry, swear my head off, jump on my dolls head until it broke off but I was never violent to any one. Only dolls and teddies.


I did the same thing with dolls, except I also used a golf club.

Heheh. Yeah, you'll know when you're having one of these.


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23 Jul 2008, 1:27 am

Thiers alot of very traumatised teddies and dolls out there.



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23 Jul 2008, 6:47 am

SIXLUCY wrote:
Thiers alot of very traumatised teddies and dolls out there.


i remember one time i pulled all the heads off my barbies, cut their hair off and tried to flush em down the toilet (just the heads/hair)... wasn't a meltdown... i just hated how my grandparents KEPT giving them to me as gifts... i never played with em and just decided they had to go one day. lol


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23 Jul 2008, 6:52 am

I only use to get mad with dolls cause when I talked to em they wouldnt talk to me. Just stare 8O



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23 Jul 2008, 7:07 am

Most of my outbursts were started due to bullies, they were mostly a way to get back at the bullies, well I wasnt under control but the only thing I thought was that I teach them what it feels like. I realy did not get it, I would flip out at times and hurt them but it did not stop them from abusing me. For me inanimate objects did not do alot, my mum offere me to get a punching bag but I dont think that it would work as it did not stop how I felt. When I was in it I would say exactly how I felt do what I wanted (feral) and then crashed, my problem was that I felt like a bad person but I am not and the thaught of being a bad person is suicidal.


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23 Jul 2008, 9:11 am

My meltdowns are usually triggered by frustration. The frustration can be caused by sitting in traffic, having my routine interrupted, not understanding verbal instructions, not seeing the logic in someones argument, and so on. Also they can be caused by sensory overload like a flickering fluorescent light, a loud piece of equipment at work, or an ill-fitting article of clothing.
It's usually a combination of these that triggers it.

As a child it would be triggered by fighting with my sister, being torn away from my encyclopedia or video game and forced to eat or sleep, being bullied, etc. The meltdowns I had in childhood are similar to the ones I have now, except they don't last as long, and I don't cry and scream and I've since stopped biting. A typical meltdown as a child for me would have been coming home from school and carrying on screaming, kicking, and biting, head banging, and hair pulling for three hours because there was no Swiss cheese in the refrigerator for me to snack on....when really I was probably bullied on the school bus on the way home, and got yelled at by a teacher in school.

I have no control over when it will happen, and I'm given no warning. Some days I'm more sensitive than others I suppose. They begin the same way they did when I was little. My vision gets distorted, my ears ring, my muscles get tense and I just snap. As an adult this can result in shouting and yelling, or more likely throwing an inanimate object like a cell phone, or even more likely, hair pulling, head banging, scratching or cutting myself.

Usually afterward I'm very quiet, and I have a very hard time concentrating and focusing, and I'm mentally and physically exhausted.



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23 Jul 2008, 6:27 pm

I really enjoy how empathetically and compassionately you all are sharing about your meltdowns. It makes me feel safe. I have them too, just not ready to go there right now. I think mine are more like verbal walls.


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23 Jul 2008, 9:55 pm

KingdomOfRats wrote:
it does not sound like a meltdown,as someone in a meltdown state is not going to be able to be that quiet and think that well,it sounds like were avoiding something do not want,and chose to do it,whereas if were in a meltdown then,would not be able to have that sort of freedom.

meltdowns are sharp-obvious to others-outbursts because the body cannot cope-the autist has no control over it,meltdowns are more physical outburst related-or might be very strong verbally,eg,headbanging on something and punching and kicking self is an example of the physical type,whilst screaming/shouting is an example often given of the verbal type.

it is more possible had a shutdown under the bed,as shutdowns are inner attacking, the body cannot cope so instead of going into fight mode,decides to shut off to all outside input instead.
have a read of this and see if it sounds like what have/have had: http://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1707940

am used to get under the bed to,to hide from certain staff,for pressure and sensory reasons,but then they replaced the bed with a solid divan one and drilled it to the wall so cannot be go under,only mattress can.


Thank you for that link. That's very interesting.

Some of the things that people experience during shutdown are exactly like what I experience during a simple or complex partial seizure.