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07 Aug 2008, 1:01 am

I'm a girl, which kinda makes me a minority among aspies/auties.
BTW I'm happy to see another South Australian on here.

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07 Aug 2008, 2:06 am

I refuse to think of anyone as "minority"

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07 Aug 2008, 7:12 am

Should it matter? I don't understand this sort of thing, really.
Besides, I'm mixed.

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07 Aug 2008, 7:18 am

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Why do people insist on using derogatory terms like "African-American" to refer to black people?

When did "African-American" become derogatory? I remember when it was the term that black folks DEMANDED to be used. When and how did it become an insult?

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07 Aug 2008, 7:31 am

Dogbrain wrote:

When did "African-American" become derogatory? I remember when it was the term that black folks DEMANDED to be used. When and how did it become an insult?

The term insinuates that the person is not a full blooded real American. In other words, a second class citizen. The majority of blacks in the US come from families that have been here for 20 generations or more. Its no more acceptable to refer to a black American as "African-American" than it is to refer to a 20th generation white guy as "German-American".

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07 Aug 2008, 7:42 am

catspurr wrote:

I refuse to think of anyone as "minority"

Depends on where you live. In South Africa, "minority" has always referred to white people. Whites are generally referred to as "Europeans" regardless of where they come from.

In the US, the last I heard, Black Americans were either losing or have already lost status as a true minority due to population increases. For the first time in US history, a Black man has a really good chance to become president. Hispanics are projected to be the new majority race in a few decades. I saw that in the paper a while back.

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07 Aug 2008, 10:01 am

Dogbrain wrote:

n4mwd wrote:

Why do people insist on using derogatory terms like "African-American" to refer to black people?

When did "African-American" become derogatory? I remember when it was the term that black folks DEMANDED to be used. When and how did it become an insult?

I'm black and I have never considered it derogatory...I don't know anyone who does. It's typically used in more formal settings - conversationally, most people I know still say black.

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07 Aug 2008, 2:24 pm

I'm mixed- mostly Mexican, but I also have English, Irish, and French in me.

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07 Aug 2008, 2:26 pm

Do sexual minorities count? (Lesbian aspie here...)

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07 Aug 2008, 2:47 pm

n4mwd wrote:

Why do people insist on using derogatory terms like "African-American" to refer to black people? Why not "Black-American"?

how is African-American derogatory? Besides, I use both African-american and Black interchangeably

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I had an African-American teacher who was a white guy who immigrated to the US from South Africa. Doesn't the adjective "African" imply that was their birth place?

they're called White Africans, or Affrikans IIRC

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If we allow our ancestors birth place to be part of the definition, then wouldn't everyone be an "African-American" because scientists say that all human life had its origins in Africa?

no; because the caucasians immigrated from Europe, so they're called European Americans. Same for Asians and the like

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I mean its nuts. I've even heard people in Europe referring to black people in their own country as "African-Americans". It makes no sense whatsoever.

yeah I saw that in the UK I think, some news clip on youtube or something

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I think its time that the disrespectful term "African-American" be flushed and replaced with a more respectful term like "Black-American".

PS: Sorry for the hijack, its a sensitive subject with me.

What about n***a? That's a cool term

*puts on flame shield lulz*

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07 Aug 2008, 2:50 pm

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Do you think some white people with AS have trouble handling non-white people with AS?

not attempting to "butt in" but I don't think so, given they think similarly in many areas. Unless both sides are racist; I'd say no. Especially given supposedly blacks with AS don't speak as much with said accents and heavy use of slang terms as caucasians do.

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07 Aug 2008, 2:54 pm

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I agree, and sorry to everyone for continuing the hijack, but it really should come down to what people that fit the description wish to be called. Last I heard, even though it often doesn't apply, most preferred African American to Black, as in it being preferable to acknowledge ethnic history instead of just skin color. But it clearly isn't accurate for many for whom the label ends up used. So ... anyone who is part of the group and has a preference for how they prefer to be referred to, I am happy to do my best to honor that. As are most people.

Last I remember many call themselves 'black' rather than African-American (i remember some guy saying it was an attempt to weaken us or something-he said "we're BLACK not African-American". Though I think that was a joke there) At least this is what I'd see in the South Side of Chicago (don't know what the buppie north siders say). That and people calling each other n***a.

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07 Aug 2008, 2:56 pm

n4mwd wrote:

that's odd given many caucasian people really pay attention to how much German or Polish or whatever they are. Especially with said Irish Parades, Pulaski Day parades, etc.

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07 Aug 2008, 3:10 pm

I have a personality type/disorder in my family that marks me also a minority in a minority.

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07 Aug 2008, 3:19 pm

My 2 spectrum children are technically minorities, though my son looks white. My daughter is a little ethnic looking in terms of skin color.

It is strange that most aspies seem to be white. I wonder if it is genetically more common among whites, or just that minorities have less access to healthcare and information (internet, good libraries, etc.) to have the same level of awareness about autism. Or if mental health workers have preconceptions towards minorities that make them rule out autism as a diagnosis (much as happens to females).

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07 Aug 2008, 6:09 pm

I actually would assume that it is because many of the countries which are represented much here have a white majority. There aren't as many blacks in the UK for example...

(Another white Aspie, but being female in a technical oriented college does count as minority, right )

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