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11 Aug 2008, 5:02 pm

I basically believe that whatever happens in your dreams is real, it's just happening on another plane or in another reality. (I'm a New Ager, I believe in different planes of existence and alternate realities.) For instance, I believe that when we go to sleep we all leave our bodies (unconsciously). The practice of consciously exiting your body so that you recall the experience is called astral projection and is something I hope to achieve. In any case, I believe that our dream experiences are just as real as our everyday "awake" experiences.



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11 Aug 2008, 7:37 pm

Typically my dreams don't bother me, in fact lately I rarely recall them. But I have had some very disturbing dreams that have haunted me for years. They didn't necessarily cause me harm, but they have been vivid enough for me to remember them, sometimes many years after I dreamt them.


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11 Aug 2008, 7:47 pm

Neuromancer wrote:
I believe inrpretation of dreams is a very important practise. Dreams are usually warnings and we must understand its meanings, also nightmares can be avoided by dream interpretation.

Skippy88 wrote:
I basically believe that whatever happens in your dreams is real, it's just happening on another plane or in another reality. (I'm a New Ager, I believe in different planes of existence and alternate realities.) For instance, I believe that when we go to sleep we all leave our bodies (unconsciously). The practice of consciously exiting your body so that you recall the experience is called astral projection and is something I hope to achieve. In any case, I believe that our dream experiences are just as real as our everyday "awake" experiences.

Aside from your respective beliefs, do you have any evidence to support your claims?


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11 Aug 2008, 7:59 pm

Fnord wrote:
Neuromancer wrote:
I believe inrpretation of dreams is a very important practise. Dreams are usually warnings and we must understand its meanings, also nightmares can be avoided by dream interpretation.

Aside from your respective beliefs, do you have any evidence to support your claims?


Wow! No doubt about it! In fact, the most convincing facts are subjective, you will have to interpretate some of your own dreams in order to evidenciate it.

An objective evidence of it I can imagine now is the "end of nightmares". Understanding your dreams will preclude future repeating bad dreams. Inconscient will have no need of repeating the same message.

I believe the meaning of dreams is as clear as the meaning of words in a paper.


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12 Aug 2008, 6:09 am

Fnord wrote:
Aside from your respective beliefs, do you have any evidence to support your claims?


No, not at all. It would be nice to have some though. I've been learning a lot of this from Seth (Seth was a spirit who was channelled from the 1960s through to the early 1980s and dictated several books about this kind of stuff.) The books can be quite heavy going but I find them really interesting.

I do hope to someday astral project though.



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12 Aug 2008, 10:01 am

Good. I cannot even pretend to argue with your beliefs. They are yours and are not on the table. However, I can and will argue any and all 'facts' and 'reasons' that you may present. Once you use 'facts' or 'reasons' to bolster your claims then I will always challenge their accuracy and validity.

Since you have said that you base your belief on some statement of what you think is 'factual' ... who is this 'Seth' and why do you believe that he/she/it is any more accurate and/or any more valid than any corporeal and science-oriented person?


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12 Aug 2008, 10:40 am

Well I think a lot of my dreams are quite vivid, often though they are things that I think, though they can be things that are not acceptable. It is like some sort of testing for what could happen, often I should feel dirty for some of the things I have dreamt about but the thing is that it is like maybe I like that. It is just crazy, my intuition doesnt seem to be involved much in my dreams, just crazy stuff.


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12 Aug 2008, 11:08 am

Over the past 5 years or so I seem to have had nothing but bad dreams and they affect me quite badly. some days I feel upset for the whole day after I've had a really bad one.
I think a lot of these are brought on by my health problems, I have a bad back and stomach troubles and I believe the discomfort I suffer then pervades into my dreams.


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12 Aug 2008, 12:14 pm

Skippy88 wrote:
I basically believe that whatever happens in your dreams is real, it's just happening on another plane or in another reality. (I'm a New Ager, I believe in different planes of existence and alternate realities.) For instance, I believe that when we go to sleep we all leave our bodies (unconsciously). The practice of consciously exiting your body so that you recall the experience is called astral projection and is something I hope to achieve. In any case, I believe that our dream experiences are just as real as our everyday "awake" experiences.


There are some very f'ed up realities out there, then, based on my two dreams from last night alone.

Incidentally, that's the first time i've had multiple dreams in one night in a long time.


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12 Aug 2008, 12:17 pm

i mostly understand what my dreams supposed to mean and its not good (just think behind the image of your dream and what feeling you get in it)



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16 Aug 2008, 3:55 pm

Neuromancer wrote:
I believe inrpretation of dreams is a very important practise. Dreams are usually warnings and we must understand its meanings, also nightmares can be avoided by dream interpretation.


Very often I have some very vivid dreams about saving the world, this happens in many ways, sometimes I am a a supehero, other times, some kind of luke skywalker :lol: I love those dreams, and I am happy to have that kind of scifi mind. Maybe skippy88 is right and all this happens on another plane of existence or reality, and I am a real hero there!

I could have a lot of interpretations about it... but I prefer to just enjoy it.


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17 Aug 2008, 9:20 am

I hate when I have bad dreams about something happening to my cats. I check to see they are okay.



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17 Aug 2008, 5:21 pm

When I have a bad dream I often force myself to wake up, but I don't know how to explain it :shrug: Sometimes I dream that somebody is chasing me and I tell myself: " I can fly, it's my dream, so I can do everything I want". And I fly up, and fly away and wake up with the feeling of flying :)
Truly, I can't control it sometimes, and then, having waken up, I think something like: "Dream, follow the night" and repeat it three times :wink:



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17 Aug 2008, 5:29 pm

Sleep video topic

Like Kafka, I learn from nightmares and turn them into stories. :)

Some are in lots of colour and frighteningly detailed, even if there is no plot and they are fragmented pieces, as some posters have mentioned.


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17 Aug 2008, 5:34 pm

I like my dreams, even though some are very twisted, disturbing or frightening. They're often so interesting, that on the whole it makes up for how horrible they were at the time.

I often wonder why I dream such disturbing things though.



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18 Aug 2008, 9:13 am

Chaotica wrote:
When I have a bad dream I often force myself to wake up, but I don't know how to explain it :shrug: Sometimes I dream that somebody is chasing me and I tell myself: " I can fly, it's my dream, so I can do everything I want". And I fly up, and fly away and wake up with the feeling of flying :)
Truly, I can't control it sometimes, and then, having waken up, I think something like: "Dream, follow the night" and repeat it three times :wink:


Oh I use to fly on my dreams too, exactly as you told... And it is better than any computer simulation ever done!


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