Schizophrenia childhood type and autism

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Sora
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16 Aug 2008, 12:20 pm

Thanks for the many information so far!

The information was helpful and I found it interesting, too.

I wanted to have some kind of sources like these to explain it to others. I already knew that it's true, especially because some people have been diagnosed with this schizophrenia childhood type but have an ASD instead, but this rather individual evidence is often not convincing to other people.


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16 Aug 2008, 12:37 pm

anbuend wrote:

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Frances Tustin also wrote a book that differentiated the two [autism and childhood schizophrenia]

That is Autism and Child Psychosis (1972). In it she has a chart in which sets out 30 features which differentiate early infantile autism and childhood schizophrenia.

In The Psychoanalytical Quarterly (1944) there is an abstract by Margaret M. Mahler of The Nervous Child I, 1941, pp.137-250, which was a double issue devoted to a symposium on the question of schizophrenia in childhood.

She writes:
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Under the heading Biography of a Schizophrenic Child, Charles Bradley gives an interesting case history of a little girl who showed conspicious seclusiveness at a very early age and an increasingly bizarre behavior; when she retired more and more into a world of fantasy, hospitalization became necessary
http://www.pep-web.org/document.php?id=paq.013.0131b .

In Child Psychiatry, third edition, 1957, Leo Kanner mentions "Bradley's 'biography' of Gwen Brown (who presented all the characteristics of early infantile autism)." In that book Early Infantile Autism is a section of almost four pages in a 26 page chapter entitled Schizophrenia.

anbuend wrote:
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It [schizophrenia]'s not at all like autism.
I had quoted from Schizophrenia: A scientific delusion in which Mary Boyle argues that
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'schizophrenia' is an unobservable, an abstract concept inferred from overt behaviour or from verbal reports of behaviour and experience
Then I made the comment
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But the same can be said for autism.
by which I meant that autism can be said to be an abstract concept inferred from overt behaviour or from verbal reports of behaviour etc, not that it is like schizophrenia.