Us aspies, are more likely to find our soulmate.

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liloleme
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23 Aug 2008, 2:56 pm

I never understood the term "soul".....I havent found anyone to explain it to me in a way that makes any sense.



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23 Aug 2008, 3:06 pm

I think it means who YOU are inside, rather than the face you present to the world and very often yourself. Its the self - the ego.

I am perhaps myself only a small fraction of the time, even though im usually alone. When the 'chatter' in my head stops, i have a very strong emotive sense and i can feel myself as a continuous prescence which stretches back to infancy.



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23 Aug 2008, 4:36 pm

liloleme wrote:
I never understood the term "soul".....I havent found anyone to explain it to me in a way that makes any sense.


The soul is the source of awareness of your own existence. It also endures beyond death (thus allowing you to retain sentience after the death of your body and mind). The term "soulmate" describes two souls which are sort of attuned to each other.


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23 Aug 2008, 5:20 pm

This entire thread presumes the existence of a "Soul," for which there is no material or causal evidence.

Then it builds goes on to propose the existence of a "Soul-Mate" - one whose "soul" is completely identical or complimentary to one's own.

As long as it is understood that these terms are mere ideas constructed to support a romantic fantasy wherein any one person has an ideal mate among the billions of people currently alive in the world.

Presumptions ... ideas ... fantasies ... Carry on!


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23 Aug 2008, 11:16 pm

I think your idea is flawed since you are assuming Aspies want to be with other Aspies. That is considering a considerable amount of the women on here have said they don't want an Aspie partner. Give me a crazy, but compassionate and calm NT any day!



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24 Aug 2008, 4:40 am

Soulmate is a myth. All the women I have met like to mess with guys heads and hearts. They do it as a power trip. Don't trust anything women say or do.



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24 Aug 2008, 5:22 am

Well, there really isn't any such thing as a soulmate - the idea that there is specifically one ideal partner for you in all the world is mathematically fallible. However, some Aspies are more likely to find a more serious partner than some by's, if only by not rushing headfirst into many social situations.


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24 Aug 2008, 8:30 am

I found my soul-mate and he is a non-aspie. He does have a lot of aspie like qualities which makes us compatable.
We've have been together for 15 years now. :heart:



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24 Aug 2008, 10:01 am

Okay, first of all, you are trying to apply a logical argument to something that is about emotions and feelings and has nothing to do with logic at all. Love is not logical. Look around. Look at the people in your life that are together. Most of the ones that truly work, are not seemingly compatible at all. They truly epitomise the "opposites attract" theory.

My husband is NT, but I have ideas that he is occasionally more aspie than me. We are a good match because we have a lot of commonalities, but enough differences to make it work and make it exciting. Are we soulmates? Probably on some plain. I often have the feeling that my whole life was leading to this. I think that I had to go through a lot of the crap that I've been through in order to make me understand and appreciate current husband. I feel like we belong together. Is that logical? No, don't be silly. It's just the way that hearts and personalities and feelings work.


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24 Aug 2008, 10:03 am

Fnord wrote:
This entire thread presumes the existence of a "Soul," for which there is no material or causal evidence.

Then it builds goes on to propose the existence of a "Soul-Mate" - one whose "soul" is completely identical or complimentary to one's own.

As long as it is understood that these terms are mere ideas constructed to support a romantic fantasy wherein any one person has an ideal mate among the billions of people currently alive in the world.

Presumptions ... ideas ... fantasies ... Carry on!


When I was a little girl my parents drug me to church which proved only to confused and upset me. I actually got into trouble in sunday school for asking too many questions. "Whats a soul?"...."Wheres heaven?" I finally made up some visual ideas that made sense to me.....Heaven is in some closet in a really nice house and a soul looks a bit like a liver :D . It made sense to me at the time although I did decide that I didnt want to be in a pile of livers in a closet....thus ended my interest in the entire subject.



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24 Aug 2008, 10:15 am

Well I'd say the basic assumption that all Aspies are most compatible with other Aspies is inherently flawed. Asperger's Syndrome is just part of who someone really is, it doesn't fully define someone enough to say that they can only be compatible with other Aspies.


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24 Aug 2008, 10:16 am

For a start, souls do not exist, at least almost certainly not in the religious context of the word. Therefore even talking about soulmates is pointless and seems a bit naive.



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24 Aug 2008, 10:24 am

I always thought the term 'soul mate' was just another term for 2 people that are compatible with each other on several different levels eg: they both like a lot of the same things movies food music taste in curtains ect, they are both compatible sexually liking how one another looks, both have a similar sex drive, and very importantly that they are able to communicate in a way both can understand.

Love then grows out of these things sometimes increasing through the years unless they’re not strong enough and so naturally die out.


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24 Aug 2008, 10:33 am

As far as whether Aspies prefer NTs or other Aspies go, I would assume that most will be indifferent.

I feel that the main motivations for seeking AS/AS relationships is because we are less obsessed with social status (thus, allowing more individuality), and we tend to be more honest about things, because we are more literal.

As someone who has been in a relationship with both an NT and another Aspie, all I can say that someone waiting 5 years (a completely arbitrary figure) before marriage or sex is far more forgivable that someone running off with another guy simply because he had a nicer car.


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24 Aug 2008, 10:37 am

liloleme wrote:
When I was a little girl...


Lol, and i always thought that avatar was a picture of you :P



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24 Aug 2008, 11:39 am

Liverbird wrote:
Okay, first of all, you are trying to apply a logical argument to something that is about emotions and feelings and has nothing to do with logic at all. Love is not logical. Look around. Look at the people in your life that are together. Most of the ones that truly work, are not seemingly compatible at all. They truly epitomise the "opposites attract" theory.

My husband is NT, but I have ideas that he is occasionally more aspie than me. We are a good match because we have a lot of commonalities, but enough differences to make it work and make it exciting. Are we soulmates? Probably on some plain. I often have the feeling that my whole life was leading to this. I think that I had to go through a lot of the crap that I've been through in order to make me understand and appreciate current husband. I feel like we belong together. Is that logical? No, don't be silly. It's just the way that hearts and personalities and feelings work.


Actually, emotional connections are quite logical and can be expressed mathematically. They are, however, very complex. It's a behavioural pattern. That doesn't make it any less real; on the contrary. But it does place a value on it and provide a level of understanding; albeit a level incomprehensible to all save super computers and mathematical savants.


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