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Loborojo
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04 Sep 2008, 11:38 pm

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Do you have one right now. no... you're in total control or you wouldn't be posting.

There are two kinds of meltdown reactions, an angry style and a curled up style. They're both facets of the same thing but people often treat them differently.

Have a read of what my blog has to say about meltdowns;

The Aspie Meltdown - An insider's point of view - Part 1
http://life-with-aspergers.blogspot.com/2007/11/aspie-meltdown-insiders-point-of-view.html

The Aspie Meltdown - An insider's point of view - Part 2
http://life-with-aspergers.blogspot.com/2007/11/aspie-meltdown-insiders-point-of-view_14.html


Ok. I read it. And I recognize my meltdowns I had in the past months and weeks. I can become violent and when I am in that state I cannot clearly think anymore and would strike the person when she is laughing at my ange or so. I've done and yes then I am not proud and it could turn into a depression.

Yesterday i have shouted at my travelpartner, because she didn't understand my depression for the last 5 days adn told me to f**k off. I got so mad about that, I grabbed a glass I would have thrown it on the floor, but I got grip on my meltdown and left for my room, but not a few minutes after I was still boiling and came out various times to curse her.
Being depressed does not stop me from getting on the computer to call for help. As you say in depression you avoid contact, I did withher but I needed help ( I would have phoned if I knew people here).
I think my mum was aspie too and she had frequent meltdowns and I act like her when she did. She would pace from the kitchen into the lounge while slamming doors, come back , in and out again.i do the same adn in the end go to my room and try to calm down. Don't want anybody to talk to me and feel like a lite child who is unable to talk and act like an adult.

So how do NTs meltdown, I mean had I not known better of meltdowns now, I would think it is just like getting angry (but it is worse, you are capable of killing of getting the person and break her neck, all in a flash of toatl black out)


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05 Sep 2008, 12:15 am

I usually have meltdowns~

In reaction to a situation that is unexpected & if I can't get away from that situation. If I can get away the complete meltdown does not occur.

In reaction to someone tampering with a much needed item... Basically, people move my stuff & have no idea where they put it.

When people repeatedly do the same thing over & over again when they know it bothers me.

I do not have SIB (self injurious behavior) but I have seen people that do.

My meltdowns occur more often when i am totally stressed out by other events or demands.

the physical manifestation of the meltdown seen by others is me crying, me pacing, me being out of control, inability to speak...

my physical symptoms are crisis state anxiety, (heart racing, vertigo, sweating, tunnel vision, feeling like I have a fever, feeling like I will explode...) I think NT's just call it anxiety.

eventually I go from the expressive kind of meltdown to the other kind... I usually withdraw from all outside stimuli & hide in my room until I can come out and effectively interact with the world outside my room.
When I was a child I had behavioral issues... screaming , yelling, running, jumping, spinning, flapping... ticking



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05 Sep 2008, 1:07 am

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do all Aspies have meltdowns?


No. I never had one AFAIK. I have had a shutdown or 2 though..


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05 Sep 2008, 1:18 am

I had meltdowns as a kid. My 10 y/o daughter has them- getting fewer and more far between. I have shut-downs still. Daughter has them too.

Shutdown is like everything is overwhelming, thoughts are racing, can't control them, they overstimulate, you can't deal with it, and you seek sensory deprivation or soothing calm. You black it all out, go inside your head, whatever, until you are over it.

DD's meltdowns=stomping, hitting, banging her head, can't control herself, ends up in a pile on the floor, screaming, crying, violent if you try to touch her or talk to her. She has lost control and she can only regain it when she's ready.

She was becoming progressively violent with me and her younger siblings, hitting, pushing, etc when she didn't get her way, melting down when they wouldn't cooperate with her instructed play, when they tteased her, etc. She's now on meds that have really helped her.



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05 Sep 2008, 1:26 am

Warsie wrote:
Loborojo wrote:
do all Aspies have meltdowns?


No. I never had one AFAIK. I have had a shutdown or 2 though..

AFAIK???????????????


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05 Sep 2008, 1:44 am

NT's do have temper tantrums but they're much more directed at a single event. With an aspie, the meltdown is often tripped by some tiny thing but is about a much more long term situation.



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05 Sep 2008, 1:47 am

AFAIK???????????????

As far as I know



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05 Sep 2008, 7:30 am

I had a massive meltdown after I posted here... The next door flat had music blasting out of it and I rang the office (Im in a residential college) to ask someone to come along and sort it out but no one came. I ended up screaming and smashing my room up. Sadly my laptop got caught up in the madness and is now broken beyond repair. Let me add 'brother's' to 'my laptop' and you'll understand why I am absolutely freaking out right now...


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05 Sep 2008, 7:38 am

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Unfortunately I throw things and yell... I wish I could get a grip on that. Of course when I am furious or severely anxious, I never think of that at the time :(
Yeah I'm the same but it's only because I'm so distressed I have literally screamed insults at my partner in the middle of a busy street and the language I've used :oops: Thank heavens she understands what is going on now, I am always very sorry afterwards but my memory of what I've done is not good on occasion I've nearly passed out my vision gets dark and I see those shooting lights.


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05 Sep 2008, 3:25 pm

For me it's losing control of myself completely and breaking down, crying, giving up, panic attacks, and so on. Nothing can calm me down except to let the meltdown pass.



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10 Sep 2008, 11:43 pm

i am getting scared, got back into an argumetn with my female friend, and I got the meltdown. But what scares me is that I feel things I never used to get before, I actually scream at her on the top of my voice and get hoarse instantly, but then I start shivering as if I am getting cold.
I promised myself years ago never to get upset like this (not knowing it were meltdowns) because I am afraid it will do me in in my health, create coronary deseases or dev elop a heartstroke...
what do I need to do to control this?


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10 Sep 2008, 11:54 pm

Loborojo wrote:
do all Aspies have meltdowns?

No, some have never had a meltdown; others have had meltdowns but learned how to deal with them, while others who have meltdowns have learned to delay the onset long enough to get to a safe place.

I'm of the second or third category. I can feel a meltdown coming on - it feels much like the onset of a migraine - and I can remove myself from the trigger situation and decompress, or if it's not too bad, I can 'deal with it' until I feel better.

I wonder ... if the physiological mechanism involved in the onset of a meltdown is the same as, or similar to, the one for migraine headaches, or if it's just a coincidence.

Correlation is not the same as causation.



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11 Sep 2008, 12:46 am

Loborojo wrote:
what do I need to do to control this?


don't get pissed off and get away from things that annoy you.


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11 Sep 2008, 1:22 am

If I am at work, and there are multiple demands that come on me all at once. I am not going to be able to think straight doing 10 things at once. No I don't throw things around or start screaming. But I will start saying phrases like "wait a minute" several times in a row. When I want to get a handle on things, I will need to stop; sit back for a few minutes; then proceed in an orderly fashion doing one thing at a time to completion. I don't know if that's what you would call a meltdown or a shutdown. Meltdowns are not specific to people on the Autism spectrum. I have seen them in NTs as well.

If I have what you might call an internal meltdown about a particular incident, I will be beside myself with worry, totally obsessed with it and often will picture it being much worse than it really is.


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