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10 Oct 2008, 5:08 pm

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I know this annoying woman with Williams Syndrome too. She insists on talking to anyone anytime as if they were family.
When she greets me, I give her a "Don't say anything to someone with AS-stare" but to no avail...


Oh, how horrible(!) You must have simply died (!)
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I bet you'd complain on here if you talked and talked to someone and they didn't answer/acted annoyed with your very presence. Hypocrite.

Maybe you got teased when you were younger, maybe you get stared at now. What you did/ do was no different from that. If you want to be treated nicely then you have to give back.

That is the most ignorant and repulsive thing you can do to a person. I hope you get it right back at you, in three-fold.

(Oh, and I'm not talking about people who do that sort of thing because they just don't know. What you did was a crappy thing, i don't care if your a cancer-patient, you just don't treat people like that EVER. Grow up.)


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10 Oct 2008, 5:14 pm

the lady have often mentioned on here over the years-a diagnosed 'severe' aspie am used to live with who makes others lives torture,fits williams syndrome more than as,she has the physical and mental traits,and has never been tested [am assuming/thinking williams can be tested for],have asked other wpers what they think about this before and whether she could be,showed the information about WS to staff but they dont want to listen as 'the pyschologists word is final'.


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10 Oct 2008, 9:27 pm

Wnenever I bump into one of those, I will promptly remove my P2 from my pocket, plug my Creative EP-630s in and listen to my music or the radio.


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10 Oct 2008, 10:40 pm

I hadn't ever heard of williams syndrome until today!



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10 Oct 2008, 11:29 pm

I think there was one who I went to Jr. High school with. I met him when I was sent to the office after being pushed down the stairs by several girls from my art class. He was red-headed and looked kinda like a leperchaun (elvish features)...He immediately started talking to me nonstop..and ended up following me around for a bit.



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10 Oct 2008, 11:31 pm

Also haven't heard of it until now.

That being said, I agree with an above poster that I would actually be happy to talk to someone who actually approached me (in most cases at least), especially if they skip the small talk and get straight to the real stuff. It's a form of acceptance I don't get often, and when I do, I'm actually quite happy. Especially if I end up making a friend in the process. I can see some circumstances where it would be a negative, but someone genuinely interested in me doesn't seem like a bad thing otherwise.



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10 Oct 2008, 11:57 pm

Sooo, our diagnostic polarity. Lab Pet's curiosity is peaked. I've never met one and, admittedly, I might a WSer a bit creepy up close and personal. Just being honest. Wonder if THEY find US creepy as well? Just as a reciprocal - unknown. Who knows what another might be thinking? I find William's Syndrome intriguing but from a far distance.

WS chattiness, yes? And socially outgoing, the 'cocktail personality' effect? Sigh.....my mind remains impervious to outside influence.

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11 Oct 2008, 12:58 am

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Probably an aspie.
A Williams Syndromer would be asking and sharing opinions. They say hi or hello to open a conversation too.

For example, they wont ask "how much did that course cost?" but rather something like "I bet that course cost a lot of money"


lol yah. I pull that sometimes, ask people about their clothes if it has something interesting or they have something I know about with their clothes...

have to lol as 2 people noticed my domo-kun hat..


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11 Oct 2008, 1:02 am

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WS chattiness, yes? And socially outgoing, the 'cocktail personality' effect? Sigh.....my mind remains impervious to outside influence.

Matter + Antimatter = violent cancellation


What I found is actually that I was far more comfortable talking to a person with WS than an NT.

(A good friend of mine, Scott, has William's. He's frikkin amazing. I guess the annoyingness level depends on who it is.)

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the lady have often mentioned on here over the years-a diagnosed 'severe' aspie am used to live with who makes others lives torture,fits williams syndrome more than as,she has the physical and mental traits,and has never been tested [am assuming/thinking williams can be tested for],have asked other wpers what they think about this before and whether she could be,showed the information about WS to staff but they dont want to listen as 'the pyschologists word is final'.


Which symptoms does she have? I'm really curious. If she's hell-bent on torturing other people she's probably something other than Williams, but it's definitely possible. There are jerks of all neurologies.


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11 Oct 2008, 1:02 am

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WS chattiness, yes? And socially outgoing, the 'cocktail personality' effect? Sigh.....my mind remains impervious to outside influence.

Matter + Antimatter = violent cancellation


HEHEHEHEHE BOOM


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11 Oct 2008, 2:02 am

BokeKaeru wrote:
Also haven't heard of it until now.

That being said, I agree with an above poster that I would actually be happy to talk to someone who actually approached me (in most cases at least), especially if they skip the small talk and get straight to the real stuff. It's a form of acceptance I don't get often, and when I do, I'm actually quite happy. Especially if I end up making a friend in the process. I can see some circumstances where it would be a negative, but someone genuinely interested in me doesn't seem like a bad thing otherwise.


Therein lies the problem. From what I understand of them, ALL you get is small talk.

For instance, in about 10 minutes, she mentioned the weather, hot air balloon races, asked if I tried a new menu item, asked if I was on my lunch break, and whatever else she said to the staff at Quiznos. She affected delight at my offer of the paper then tossed it aside and seemingly ignored it.

And I dont think they take a genuine interest in individuals. She was just as happy to engage the Quiznos staff too. That I was a person was criteria enough to engage me in conversation. While thats a fine sort of egalitarianism, the fact was I was the only other person in there other than the two staff members.

And oddly, that is a point of consensus with she and I. I too dont much value one person over the next. I assume that most people are decent, honest and have only good intentions.

But while some aspies crave social bonding, I dont seem to, and she caught me at a time when I was engrossed in thought and ritual. Its a custom of mine to sit in the sunlight, read the paper and enjoy a meal with myself. I deeply resent having my thoughts disrupted by inanities.

A middle aged woman with a penchant... no, a talent for socializing should recognize when someone doesnt want to converse. She was rude.

Anyway, the encounter was interesting, but like a lot of aspies I experienced it impersonally. I was not directly engaged(which is why people think we are spaced out or distant).

It will be informative if I encounter her again.


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11 Oct 2008, 2:07 am

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So THAT explains the little old ladies in the grocery muttering to themselves how much they'll enjoy this jar of marmalade. I pay no attention, and act like I'm deaf.


Probably just dementia there, but maybe it is something else.


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11 Oct 2008, 7:03 am

I know one with William's too. I like her and think she is nice to talk to. She does talk a lot, but so do I, so it doesn't matter. Sometimes I prefer that people start telling something by themselves instead of asking me a lot of unimportant questions in that certain kind of cross examination they call smalltalk. :wink:



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11 Oct 2008, 7:45 am

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The neurobehavioural profile of Williams syndrome (WS), particularly in the social domain, invites comparison with another neurodevelopmental disorder, autism. In contrast to the hypersociability, increased empathy and fascination with faces seen in WS, autism is characterized by qualitative disability in social interaction, including failure to develop age-appropriate peer relationships and lack of social or emotional reciprocity. Unlike the relative language strengths of WS, language in people with autism is usually relatively weak; many individuals do not develop spoken language, others have marked impairment in initiating conversation, and/or stereotyped, repetitive or idiosyncratic use of language.


It's fascinating. I guess if there's darkness, there's also light, so if Autism is one extreme of human behaviour, Williams is the other.