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13 Oct 2008, 7:40 am

donkey wrote:
force the As out of an As kid and force them to be/act NT....is a bad recipe.


I definitely agree! I didn't even know who I was as an individual for a while, I was like an empty shell after my AS interests were hammered out of me. Only now that they've been given a chance to creep back in again I've started feeling like a whole person again.


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13 Oct 2008, 7:50 am

Smelena wrote:
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If I were the parent of an Aspie child, I'd focus my main efforts regarding him on helping him build a life according to an Aspie model of success and not an NT one.


Would you describe an Aspie model of success please?

I find parenting challanging - trying not to impose my NT ideals on my Aspie sons, but then also needing to teach them to be able to function in our society.

Helen


I do not think an aspie model exists.

It is true we do better in some professions, and making a living is important.

That helps, but still leaves us socially clueless.

I have as much chance passing in the world as I would have pretending to be Chinese, without even speaking the language.

My people stuff is, over, under, off the mark, and having watched many over a long time, it still does not make sense.

My relationship with the world is by function, they want my skills, which are rare, enough to put up with me for a little while.

Sometimes they do want to socialize, and I do not. I am the one with a limited world view.

I would rather read a book than watch football on TV with others. It is me that sees no point to football, considers TV brain rotting, and do not wish to be in the company of others.

My view is earning enough to have some place I can be me.

There is no hope of learning, I am mind blind, face blind, and live in a very different world.

I cannot join them, I have tried, they cannot accomidate me. Our perceptual ranges overlap, but not much.

I also find the same with autistic people, we are as different as people in general. Some are general, they can connect with everyone, then through lesser and lesser degress of social connection, we come to me, a Culture of One.

It is not total isolation, I do relate to others around things that interest me. But it is part of me relating to part of them.

They are as alien as ever, but I get by.

I do best where there is an overlap, I can provide a service, they need it. That gap is everything between us.

I have built on that, my usefulness.