Fed up with stupid doctors.

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slowmutant, lawyers went to law school, so we should automatically respect them too.

And politicians got elected by convincing people they're selfless and honest, so they must be.

And there's used car salesmen that win sales awards for their professionalism.

Think somebody missed those news articles about drug companies giving kickbacks to psychiatrists. Some individuals got over a million dollars. A lot get less.

Ultimately though, I think individual opinions result from individual experiences. Anybody who had the experiences I've had would have complete contempt for the self described "mental health professionals."

Or maybe you think somebody's too mentally ill to be a parent because they have the delusion that the mormon church is anti-gay. So they shouldn't be allowed to see their kids.

A feminist said it, and no "mental health professional" would dare question a feminist.

I', also fed up with one stupid psychiatrist. For my diagnose, she made a report, with the tests results and the oddities from my earliest youth, course of life etc. However, the half of it was just nonsense! She made up all sorts of trauma's, like when my mother and me moved out our father's home, it went better with me almost right afterwards. Though this psychiatrist wrote My safe base was gone and that it was traumatizing. It was, a nit, but there wasn't a ''safe base'' for years! It was safer for me to move away. Also, I told her my philosophy regarding life, meaning of it, religion etc. She didn't understand a thing of it, so she wrote all sorts of crap and illogical things that I would have said, even though I didn't. It was just one mistake after another.

I have always been more partial to apples.

I think its more more a case of knowing oneself better than they do. I know that was the case when I got my diagnosis changed.

Besides, medical professions are not immune to idiots getting in. I had a doctor look at my knee once, when I had a weird free body (later revealed to be a cyst, requiring surgery) in my knee. He decided, against all common sense, that it was not a free body, even though I could move it under my skin, a full lap around my knee in more than three directions. He decided instead that it was a clump of sinew or something, and recommended I buy a training bike and use for three weeks. Reasoning that he should know what he's doing, I did. This caused the cyst to get stuck in my knee, causing excruciating pain, and putting me on crutches until I got to the emergency ward, where they realized what it was and what was needed.

And why is that?

GEE, for all you know, I went to medical school all my life.

You DON'T learn by being in school, or EVEN being "taught". You learn by learning! Do you think a doctor will become as good as someone like House by going to school? NO WAY!! !! !! ! Even any half way decent school acknowledges that by having INTERNSHIPS!

So what does that mean? That there are a LOT of degreed QUACKS! The good doctors are there because they were very smart, lucky, studious(and went to a GOOD school with GOOD instructors), or CARED!

And NOPE, I don't claim to know everything about ANYTHING, and certainly NOT medical stuff. I only figure out SOME of the stuff on medical mysteries or house. Still, a doctor telling an OBVIOUS lie that many non doctor's know, or ASSUMING things that are DANGEROUS(even when the patient knows better), refusing to diagnose because of an apparent lack of circumstance or symptoms, IS bad.

As a patient, I generally defer to my doctor. You may be fed up with stupid doctors, but who else can you go to to get medical treatment in a time of need? I see this glass half full while you see it half-empty.

I'm discovering something. To study humans, you actually have to go out and study HUMANS and not just read a lot of text-books and cram for exams.

I've discovered that basing my life off of textbooks doesn't work.

Medical Science is work in progress and should be treated as such.

So doctors aren't stupid, many of them have had very good educations and passed lots of exams.

The question is, are they open to new ideas which could potentially turn their views of the medical world upside down? I'm not so sure. I've been a very inflexible person myself, so I'm guilty of this too. Accepting new ideas/ways of thinking can take a long time, be hard for some people. What is needed is evidence.

So no, doctors aren't stupid. They may be unaware/misinformed/be doing the best they can with the training they had given the circumstances. Maybe some of them don't have the specialist training to deal with certain cases. We can hardly blame them for not knowing something about conditions they don't have expertise in.

Doctors are human and can make mistakes/follow preexisting dogmas just like the rest of us.

Lots of people forget this. I'm not a doctor, but I can understand why some doctors might not be as open to new ideas or anything not covered in their medical training.

this one is actually pretty good, concidering the nut cases I have had in the past. It is just that the last Dr. that I had was certain that everyone had bi-polar disorder, and wrote it on my one page letter that was sent to this dr,when I started to see this current dr.
The letter failed to tell my entire 34 years. Aspergers is primarily diagnosed off of symptoms that are exhibited in childhood, but this is not included in the refereal letter. I want to demand the whole file from my old dr., but I was told that I can't, and that I can't even see any of my file either. i know this is not true. But I would have to pay for the copies, and with a dr. that doesn't want you to have the file, he will probably charge an outragous amout per page. He was paid for his services. This information is MINE.

Last edited by FrogGirl on 27 Nov 2008, 10:58 am, edited 1 time in total.

but you can' t have BIOPOLAR disorder if you don't have manic episodes(or even thier HYPO MANIC episodes). I'm on prozac for depression, and it takes the edge off. Prozac, alone would make a bipolar person really manic, and as I have said, I am NOT MANIC. never.
Gensia

Reminds me of a counsellor who insisted that I must have been traumatised as a very young child by the conflicts between my parents. When I tried to explain that my parents had taken great pains to hide all that from me until it burst out when I was a bit older, and that I'd had no idea anything was wrong until then, all I got was "oh yes but they couldn't have disguised it completely you know, you would have sensed it unconscously." Phooey!

Oh, I had a problem I only PARTIALLY diagnosed as a problem with my circulatory system. Someone ELSE had to look deeper, etc... You are talking symantics. I am simply asking the doctor to get, and or save, more for the glass!

I had bad doctors all my life, even people who couldn't diagnose me anything... Some were diagnosing me something obscure and said : "You're taking this"... Some were diagnosing me ADHD, and I, with the shop around stuff, fell on THE doctor, who has diagnosed me AS. I, before, didn't know my problem, until that doctor diagnosed me. In two weeks and four appointments, he has known it. We, after, checked on wikipedia and all was corresponding. I was so relieved.
So I, in resume, I passed 7 years of my life with bad doctors, and one week ago, I got diagnosed AS. But, I think people are suffering of this more than me because they waited so long, or a still waiting. Keep searching for a good psychiatrist, good chance.

So said something profound.... work in ******PROGRESS******! By MY understanding, that means moving FORWARD! They shouldn't discount something that has been proven or is easily proved.

what i was trying to do boostie was impart a parable, much like what some religoius books do. obviously you didnt get it

Want to know how I found out I had brain cancer?

I went to a psychiatrist, telling him I had hallucinations and that nothing felt real. He put me on Paxil until I forced him into doing actual tests.

So yeah. Call me a skeptic. The shrinks I've met since haven't been much better. You tell them a symptom, they throw you a pill instead of trying to find out what's actually wrong.

I have no idea how many years that a**hole took off of my life.
EDIT: And as for respecting your doctors because they're the ones who went to med school?

Don't underestimate the autodidact. I can usually tell a doctor if a drug will interact with one of the many I'm taking before they can. They get lazy.