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legendoftheselkie
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07 Dec 2008, 1:43 am

They're still showing that piece of dreck?? You'd think it would have been taken off the air by now. Apparently there's still a minority that it's okay to insult.
That ad is demeaning to people with autism and demeaning to parents who have lost children. Presumably some, if not most, of the members of Autism Speaks have children with autism. If those children are such a burden to them that they feel they might as well be dead, perhaps we could arrange for some childless families to take those burdens off their hands.


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07 Dec 2008, 2:52 am

Yes, I've seen the commercials. :(



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07 Dec 2008, 5:35 am

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They're still showing that piece of dreck?? You'd think it would have been taken off the air by now. Apparently there's still a minority that it's okay to insult.
That ad is demeaning to people with autism and demeaning to parents who have lost children. Presumably some, if not most, of the members of Autism Speaks have children with autism. If those children are such a burden to them that they feel they might as well be dead, perhaps we could arrange for some childless families to take those burdens off their hands.


I've believed for a long time that the one kind of diversity no one will embrace is the kind they can't see with their eyes. If you want walk around in a lava-lava and a necktie and claim it's part of your religion, if you ritually paint yourself purple, if you just plain look different or have body parts missing, they will step up for you. If you hate loud noises and funny smells and don't thank them for blessing you when you sneeze, Heaven help you. I think humans would invent a minority if we somehow got everyone equal, just so that they could blame someone for something. Piers Anthony, an author I wouldn't recommend generally, did write an interesting book called "Race Against Time" about how everyone had married interracially for generations until most everyone was the same color except for a few that they were trying to get to breed so that there would be different races once more (the idea being that in making everyone the same, something had been lost). But of course, that's just another story about the outside differences.

As to the ad, I have no idea what their point is. I don't have much use for statistics anyway. You always, always have to take someone else's word for them, and the numbers don't mean much to me anyway. All I'm getting from their comparison is that since my little son has been diagnosed with AS, I am a very, very lucky person. The odds were in his favor, you see... He hasn't been in a fatal car crash. I couldn't be more pleased. I expect many people with autistic children see that ad and say, "Thank goodness it's not the other way around."


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07 Dec 2008, 5:49 am

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Absolutely infantile. That anyone would believe an organization that throws numbers up there like a child shouting "Mommy mommy! I have facts look look! Aren't you proud of me, I have facts!" They just continue to prove that they really are the ones who are "ret*d" and need to be cured.



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07 Dec 2008, 5:54 am

irishwhistle wrote:
legendoftheselkie wrote:
They're still showing that piece of dreck?? You'd think it would have been taken off the air by now. Apparently there's still a minority that it's okay to insult.
That ad is demeaning to people with autism and demeaning to parents who have lost children. Presumably some, if not most, of the members of Autism Speaks have children with autism. If those children are such a burden to them that they feel they might as well be dead, perhaps we could arrange for some childless families to take those burdens off their hands.


I've believed for a long time that the one kind of diversity no one will embrace is the kind they can't see with their eyes. If you want walk around in a lava-lava and a necktie and claim it's part of your religion, if you ritually paint yourself purple, if you just plain look different or have body parts missing, they will step up for you. If you hate loud noises and funny smells and don't thank them for blessing you when you sneeze, Heaven help you. I think humans would invent a minority if we somehow got everyone equal, just so that they could blame someone for something. Piers Anthony, an author I wouldn't recommend generally, did write an interesting book called "Race Against Time" about how everyone had married interracially for generations until most everyone was the same color except for a few that they were trying to get to breed so that there would be different races once more (the idea being that in making everyone the same, something had been lost). But of course, that's just another story about the outside differences.

As to the ad, I have no idea what their point is. I don't have much use for statistics anyway. You always, always have to take someone else's word for them, and the numbers don't mean much to me anyway. All I'm getting from their comparison is that since my little son has been diagnosed with AS, I am a very, very lucky person. The odds were in his favor, you see... He hasn't been in a fatal car crash. I couldn't be more pleased. I expect many people with autistic children see that ad and say, "Thank goodness it's not the other way around."


I agree with you. That's why so many people are advocating for an acceptance of invisible disabilities. You would think people would understand that asking someone who has Hyperacusis to tolerate the noise of a shreiking child is like asking someone in a wheelchair to walk, would be enough of a dramatic statement for them to understand. Maybe I should phrase it more like, it would be like if you couldn't buy that trendy bag you wanted. Seeing how materialistic some NTs are.

I face challenges every day due my Hyperacusis, it's like this post here:

http://www.wrongplanet.net/postp1902829.html#1902829

That parents can be so overreactionary towards someone who simply doesn't want to sit by next to their little angel, they end up upsetting their child by going into animal stance, instead of understanding that not everyone can tolerate the high pitches children are known to create.



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07 Dec 2008, 5:56 am

I try to give them the benifet of the doubt, but please, these people sound like the type that want to alow humans to have deseigner babies which will eliminate autism for ever, serously this is just continuing to make us appear as a mistake of life. Realy what if we put together some statistics that might show what depression and other effects might happen to autistic people feeling the way they do due to advertising like this.


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07 Dec 2008, 6:53 am

Using the term "Disgusting" is pretty much redundant where Autism Swastikas are concerned.


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07 Dec 2008, 6:59 am

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Using the term "Disgusting" is pretty much redundant where Autism Swastikas are concerned.


I like that, Autism Swastikas.



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07 Dec 2008, 7:03 am

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Using the term "Disgusting" is pretty much redundant where Autism Swastikas are concerned.


I like that, Autism Swastikas.


Quite memetic, isn't it? I'd hope so, anyway - I think there's a good chance of it catching on. 8)


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07 Dec 2008, 7:03 am

For all those who know autism = severely isolated, ret*d little child who cannot do anything this ad indicates that 1 out of 166 children is like that. No mention of that there is a spectrum, that even pronounced forms of autism can show very differently and that it's a myth that an autistic child resembles a living corpse.

So, yes, it's ridiculously offending.

And it's causing a real problem too:

Many parents will see that and think: well, my kid is a little odd, spoke late maybe, has issues with self-help skills, but is so sweet and seems clever and lovely. Their state doesn't resemble death one bit. So they cannot possibly be autistic!

You've got to thank ads and false information spreads like this for making it even harder to get a diagnosis of a PDD.


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07 Dec 2008, 7:06 am

I can see no connection between the two statements, and little connection to the picture.



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07 Dec 2008, 7:10 am

Everchanging wrote:
violet_yoshi wrote:
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Using the term "Disgusting" is pretty much redundant where Autism Swastikas are concerned.


I like that, Autism Swastikas.


Quite memetic, isn't it? I'd hope so, anyway - I think there's a good chance of it catching on. 8)


I like it too, because I find the whole cure buisness to be very similar to Hitler's idea of "curing" the world of the Jews, being Jewish myself. I can't help but see a strong correlation, that history is repeating itself, and Autism Spectrum people are just the latest to be deemed undesirables.

It seems there are several people who don't want to believe this, but I say had Hitler had the technology to remove the Jewish gene from the genome, don't you think he would've tried? This is the same, except they want to remove the Autism gene, or whatever variants, from the human genome.

It's Eugenics, and I happened to have been at one of the Autism Speaks meetings, at a time when my mom and I weren't really informed and we thought they actually were for support. Anyone who can stand in a room full of Autistic Spectrum kids and their parents, like this woman who lead the meeting did, and say "We're looking for a way to erase Autism (a.k.a people like you) from exsistance" to me has the same mindset as a Nazi.



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07 Dec 2008, 7:24 am

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07 Dec 2008, 7:56 am

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UGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG I FEEL LIKE THROWING UP :eew:


This is really sickening. I live in the Netherlands, so I hardly know anything about this organisation; I became to know what it is by all the complaints I've read about it on WP. I searched their internet site, and then I finally understood what you all resented about it.

I didn't expect them to make this! It is SO insulting. As if autism is the end of the world, and autistic children are as bad as a fatal car crash!! SO disgusting! You can be autistic and very happy! Why do they want to make autism look like an epidemic?! It's like saying being homosexual is equal to murder. This is so disgusting.

It is sickening to compare autism with fatal car crash. This organisation is a disaster, unethical sickening people.


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07 Dec 2008, 8:19 am

Perhaps, we should put out our own documentaries and tell them that we're against Autism Speaks and that most of us don't wish to be cured. We can show the world, that we're not broken.

I also think that Autism Speaks should change their name to Autism Swastikas, and they should be using a swastika, instead of a puzzle piece. We should also send this link to Autism Speaks.


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07 Dec 2008, 8:25 am

I also think that each of us should sign up as members and troll them, as well. :twisted:


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