Aspies: Would you/do you have children?

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ReGiFroFoLa
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07 Dec 2008, 12:12 pm

This is idiotic to make kids when You are fully aware of Your condition :evil: If someone wish to have sex so much - no problem. But cheez, anticonceptions's brilliant theese days! First think - than f**k! :evil:



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07 Dec 2008, 12:20 pm

ReGiFroFoLa wrote:
This is idiotic to make kids when You are fully aware of Your condition :evil: If someone wish to have sex so much - no problem. But cheez, anticonceptions's brilliant theese days! First think - than f**k! :evil:


So you don't believe that Aspies/autistics can be good parents?


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07 Dec 2008, 12:31 pm

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So you don't believe that Aspies/autistics can be good parents?


I did not say this. But why spread contaminated genes? I don't mind myself, but why should I condemn this unborn being for my fate?

How could You know if the infant would be positive about it's condition? And it could be not be Autism or Asperger's - it could be as well Down's Syndrome or Rett's Syndrome or some serious, physicall impairment...

And indeed - some people (doesn't matter if aspies or NTs) can not be parents and are not relly able to undertake this challanging role...



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07 Dec 2008, 12:34 pm

Who knows if they might beome Hitler or something. Or what if they become Einstein.


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07 Dec 2008, 12:41 pm

Its not going to happen unless the following conditions are met:

1> I would have to marry a gourgeous woman who has her sh*t together mentally.

2> I would have to be financially secure to where the child would not have to work. Making a good living with AS is difficult.



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07 Dec 2008, 12:51 pm

ReGiFroFoLa wrote:
Tails wrote:
So you don't believe that Aspies/autistics can be good parents?


I did not say this. But why spread contaminated genes? I don't mind myself, but why should I condemn this unborn being for my fate?

How could You know if the infant would be positive about it's condition? And it could be not be Autism or Asperger's - it could be as well Down's Syndrome or Rett's Syndrome or some serious, physicall impairment...


Contaminated? That's a bit harsh. ASDs make some aspects of life difficult, yes, but you sound like someone from Autism Speaks by calling us 'contaminated'. There's also no guarantee that you'd have an autistic or otherwise disabled child. Yes, there's a higher chance... but even so, a life with an ASD isn't a death sentence.


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07 Dec 2008, 1:04 pm

Tails wrote:
a life with an ASD isn't a death sentence.


Indeed. I wasn't saying about ASDs.

Contaminated? As You said - there's a higher risk of raising somehow impaired child when You have "disability" Yourself...

Contaminated? I accept myself, true, but there are so many aspies who hate themselves and their parents for their lifes...



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07 Dec 2008, 1:07 pm

FYI

I happen to love who and what I am!
I learn quicker and more in depth in my interests then NT's,
I am a much deeper and I feel real person then many of these fake people,
I see nothing wrong with having children much like my self,
my ONLY issues is the social issues which makes my life so lonely,
other issues such as work and sensory is not that much of an issues once one finds their niche.
and with what I been learning about AS I can help my child overcome much of the issues while he is young,
where as I did not know what the hell was wrong with me until my early 40's.
it made a huge difference in my life learning and understanding what was wrong and why.
my only real worries is that my son may end up having as many empathy and nurturing issues as his mother
or as many lack of ToM issues as I have, but I am working hard on them with him and hopefully things will balance out.
Life can be, and is, beautiful!



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07 Dec 2008, 1:08 pm

i have 2 kids. i know that they both grew up with a lack of empathy and warmth. i was hyperparanoid that i would lose them or they would fall off a cliff somewhere. because of that, they didnt get to go out with friends as much as they probably should. looking back, if i had know about the AS, maybe things would have been different. i do love them and would not trade being a mom for anything. they gave me a purpose in life, not that i am that pathetic that i didnt have goals, but you can only have so many cats.



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07 Dec 2008, 1:15 pm

I would definitely want to be a parent/step-parent in the future.


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07 Dec 2008, 1:19 pm

What I've personally observed is that people who grew up selfish and creating problems for everyone around them usually have a lot of difficulty breaking that habit when presented with parenthood.

If you can create an environment where you can flourish, a child on the autism spectrum might flourish as well.
NT children are pretty plastic and can adjust, at least mine did.

I'm having a lot of fun with my grandchildren these days.



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07 Dec 2008, 1:19 pm

I think that all humans are similar to animals in some respects in that we all have an instinctive 'parenting' mode that emerges when we have children. I have four, none of which are on the spectrum and I most certainly agree with what Violet wrote about not giving another entity a chance to be born by remaining childless. I do not agree that our genes are contaminated in the least bit. I have problems for sure but I don't think my life has been so miserable that I wouldn't do it all over again as I've also had some incredible experiences that I would have missed if I myself had not been born.


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07 Dec 2008, 1:27 pm

aspergian_mutant wrote:
FYI

I happen to love who and what I am!
I learn quicker and more in depth in my interests then NT's,
I am a much deeper and I feel real person then many of these fake people,
I see nothing wrong with having children much like my self,
my ONLY issues is the social issues which makes my life so lonely,
other issues such as work and sensory is not that much of an issues once one finds their niche.
and with what I been learning about AS I can help my child overcome much of the issues while he is young,
where as I did not know what the hell was wrong with me until my early 40's.
it made a huge difference in my life learning and understanding what was wrong and why.
my only real worries is that my son may end up having as many empathy and nurturing issues as his mother
or as many lack of ToM issues as I have, but I am working hard on them with him and hopefully things will balance out.
Life can be, and is, beautiful!
My own thoughts echo many of the sentiments expressed here.

I don't know what "ToM" is though.



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07 Dec 2008, 1:29 pm

I'm great with kids; but I wouldn't want any. Granted, I may wind up with several dozen bastards, but, still...
My concern over having kids would be if they'd turn out like me. The last thing I'd want is to have children, who possess my intellect and insight - a terrible existence. You know the cynical, borderline alcoholic, ill tempered genius that's popular on TV? Well, though I wouldn't trade this life for anything less significant, I couldn't intentionally risk another inheriting it.
It's not fun being that guy.


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07 Dec 2008, 1:42 pm

EnglishLulu wrote:
aspergian_mutant wrote:
FYI

I happen to love who and what I am!
I learn quicker and more in depth in my interests then NT's,
I am a much deeper and I feel real person then many of these fake people,
I see nothing wrong with having children much like my self,
my ONLY issues is the social issues which makes my life so lonely,
other issues such as work and sensory is not that much of an issues once one finds their niche.
and with what I been learning about AS I can help my child overcome much of the issues while he is young,
where as I did not know what the hell was wrong with me until my early 40's.
it made a huge difference in my life learning and understanding what was wrong and why.
my only real worries is that my son may end up having as many empathy and nurturing issues as his mother
or as many lack of ToM issues as I have, but I am working hard on them with him and hopefully things will balance out.
Life can be, and is, beautiful!
My own thoughts echo many of the sentiments expressed here.

I don't know what "ToM" is though.


Theory of Mind, relating to or guessing what other people are thinking,
NT's do not seem to have much issues with this, I make many mistakes
trying to take things at face value so I try to balance things out with
overwhelming amounts of information gleaned from previous conversations and experiences,
this many times is wrong as well, but not as often as just taking things for face value.
for the most part I just reflect how I would think or feel about issues to try and relate.



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07 Dec 2008, 1:54 pm

I'm way too young at the moment, but having a child is something I may do when I am older. AS or NT, having a child would be cool. :)


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