Do people make fun of you for "knowing"?

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08 Dec 2008, 12:50 pm

This whole discourse is pretty one-sided. Aspies always win because we never ever consider other points of view. We "win" because we a pathologically incapable of reciprocity and empathy. Taking the long view, that's no victory at all.

Aspies are always correct because other people are stupid and have only stupid things to say.

Yeah right.



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08 Dec 2008, 12:54 pm

They don't make fun of me but they tend to pigeonhole me as a smart-ass perfectionist type which I hate. I don't see myself as "by the book", I actually think of myself as rather imperfect. I think I could learn a little more about the things I'm interested in... But I try to keep my passions under wraps when it comes to people who think I'm a smart-ass. When I do talk about them, sometimes I regret it because I feel that I don't know enough. It's strange.

I hate it when I'm wrong! (And honestly, I frequently am. That's how I learn things... which would explain why I hate when people think I'm an expert at anything.)



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08 Dec 2008, 12:57 pm

What's worse is when people don't believe you or marginalize the importance to the situation when you give them the facts

and then they try to treat you like you're the office idiot.

"Fine.
Go run a search engine.
But before you do, lets make this interesting.
If you loose, a cup of yuppie coffee says I'm right."



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08 Dec 2008, 12:59 pm

People don't make fun of me for that because I hardly find myself knowing something to an unusual extent and when I do, I don't blabber on about it unless the situation is totally appropriate.

My dad has this tendency to start a conversation with me about something either political or philosophical that doesn't interest me at all. Even if I interrupt him bluntly with a response of "whatever the heck you are talking about I'm not interested" sometimes he still doesn't get the hint.



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08 Dec 2008, 1:08 pm

My peers made fun of my broad knowledge, when I was in high school. I'm thinking that they didn't expect me to know as much facts as I did, because they expected me to be one of the slow ones. I've found that very degrading.


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08 Dec 2008, 1:10 pm

BTW, knowing alot of info about an interest doesnt mean you have a high intelligence.



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08 Dec 2008, 1:18 pm

slowmutant wrote:
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Some NTs don't want to know "the Truth" or "the Information" so much as they don't want to feel uncomfortable.


Do you want to be made to feel uncomfortable in this manner?

I didn't think so.


You are making an assumption about me. I have no problem with some apparently simple person suddenly spilling a lot of detailed and technical information about something that comes up at random in the conversation (do I recall the OP said s/he explained what the cat's meow meant, and then got made fun of for saying it?).

I think that when people get uncomfortable because someone suddenly speaks above their heads, that's an ego or other personal problem they have.

It's not whether I want to be made uncomfortable in that manner. It's not possible to make me uncomfortable in that way. I'd be interested in what the person had to say about the cat's meow. I think savants are really fun and interesting to engage with, even if a little exhausting. At worst, they are too much to deal with if they don't regulate the flow. Never do I get uncomfortable to the point of harassing or teasing or making fun of people.

Perhaps it is a feature of my own AS that I don't understand why other people can't deal with hearing the truth or other peoples' opinions.



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08 Dec 2008, 1:18 pm

This wasn't suppose to be posted in this thread. I've deleted it. It was supposed to be in another thread, but that one appeared to be deleted.


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08 Dec 2008, 1:19 pm

CockneyRebel wrote:
My peers made fun of my broad knowledge, when I was in high school. I'm thinking that they didn't expect me to know as much facts as I did, because they expected me to be one of the slow ones. I've found that very degrading.


See, that is my point. It's a personal problem they had on their part, feeling intimidated intellectually by someone they felt they needed to feel superior to. Ego tripping on its banality.



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08 Dec 2008, 1:23 pm

slowmutant wrote:
This whole discourse is pretty one-sided. Aspies always win because we never ever consider other points of view. We "win" because we a pathologically incapable of reciprocity and empathy. Taking the long view, that's no victory at all.

Aspies are always correct because other people are stupid and have only stupid things to say.

Yeah right.


Even if what you say is true, that Aspies always think they're right because they think NTs are stupid, how does that remotely justify making fun of the OP for knowing what the cat's meow meant, or whatever knowledge s/he was made fun of for revealing?

Isn't the belittling of AS savants really all about NTs being jealous when an apparently simple person outperforms them unexpectedly?



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08 Dec 2008, 2:03 pm

It never happened to me. I used to be made fun of for being interested in stuff others found weird but not for an amount of information I had about my interests – for this I was only admired.



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08 Dec 2008, 2:04 pm

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Intelligence is more than just being able to recite trivia. It is also about knowing when to recite it, how, and to whom.

Or, as a wise man once said, "When someone asks you for the correct time, don't give them a lecture on the history of Bavarian clockmaking."


Exquisitely said and a perfect explanation for why I hardly ever talk.

Still, I DO get incredibly irritated when I write a paper, a prof asks why I didn't cite some of my sources (for things I assumed were common knowledge) and all I can do is stare at the floor and mutter that I didn't have to because *I'M* the source, becase the facts I used were things I've known for, say, ten or fifteen years.

Then I have to go and take ten minutes to find a study, that I probably read ten or fifteen years ago, to back up what I said. It gets irritating.

One time in a class we were talking about something and I had to talk to get participation points and one of the other students seriously told me to "cite my source" and I couldn't believe that they didn't know what I was talking about. I e-mailed him about fifty links proving me correct.



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08 Dec 2008, 2:05 pm

tom20 wrote:
BTW, knowing alot of info about an interest doesnt mean you have a high intelligence.


Yeah but I knew my job
which was a lot more than the knuckleheads I worked with knew about the job they were supposed to be doing.

No one could believe I'd actually retire. They all thought I loved that stupid job because I actually did the work.
I knew what to do and did it because that's what I was being paid to know and do.

When the "geek" retired they had to outsource a whole team of techs to replace me.



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08 Dec 2008, 2:10 pm

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When the "geek" retired they had to outsource a whole team of techs to replace me.

That's what I'm hoping for, too!

Anyone can be replaced, but by who?


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08 Dec 2008, 2:36 pm

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Do people make fun of you for "knowing"?


Not to my face and not that I'm aware of. Therefore my answer is NO.



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08 Dec 2008, 2:43 pm

I only have to mention that I like heraldry and I'm met with a confused look and an awkward laugh.

It's such an unusual and misunderstood subject.


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