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Is this something like Monopoly? Does Target carry it?

Her friend lost her job today. That isn't nice, even if you don't agree with her.

Honestly, NQ, white collar workplaces are like that. Not at all like military, blue collar, etc. It is better or worse depending on what field you work in.
I got a lot of things offered to me in exchange for sex, including a "Chief Technical Officer" job and title. If only I were not so incapable of lying and cheating, I would be a lot better off professionally. (Probably just as neurotic, tho).

I didn't make that connection- so I apologize. Of course, I can relate: Due to budgetary cutbacks and our illustrious State of California's inability to create a working budget, my job was eliminated effective December 19th. Yes- 5 days before Christmas I am getting laid off. So I can totally understand the frustration.

And again, these expereiences are individual and in no way reflect the whole. Since I am not "Aspie" I take issue with the sentiment that everyone, everywhere behaves as Greentea has experienced. It certainly hasn't been true for me.

...I can relate: Due to budgetary cutbacks and our illustrious State of California's inability to create a working budget, my job was eliminated effective December 19th. Yes- 5 days before Christmas I am getting laid off. So I can totally understand the frustration.

My condolences and best wishes. I've been 'let go' in Dec. twice and man does it suck because even when you find a company that's hiring, so many people are off on vacation nothing usually happens until the 2nd week of January. But keep at it and you'll find something.
If it helps, maybe it's better to lose your job now instead of the in the spring when there should be a big rush of unemployed. If the Governor is right, California will be completely broke in about 3 months.
Thought about moving to another state that actually knows how to manage a budget?

I've seen both sides of it, Greentea. My family is honest to the point of drawing blood, so to speak. My husband's family believes that if you don't mention something, it never happened (at least, that's how they act). If you mention the things they don't want to address, they show no sign of having heard you. They tolerate each others' irritating qualities by pretending that they don't exist. And appearances only matter to a point... They even clean only the visible surfaces in their home, but they don't care enough to clean what might be seen by family staying there for a day or so. So for our first Christmas married, then sent a big box of Christmas presents that contained, all wrapped up, dollar store fish calendars and grocery store microwave popcorn and strings of Christmas lights instead of just sending a card like we asked them to... because the big box of wrapped objects makes a better show even though they just grabbed cheap items and wrapped them. I mean, they could have sent all that stuff but they had to wrap it for appearances. We actually needed the Christmas lights but we didn't unwrap them until Christmas, so they never got used. Not the point, I know.

They are very dysfunctional but like to keep up the facade of a loving family and manipulate you with guilt to help them look good. Fortunately, they live far away and haven't tried much with us lately, but yes, I know that there are people who value the coating above the substance and treat you like crap if you fail to give them what they consider your duty. Truth has no merit to them.

People around me look down on you if you don't cheat them, lie to them, sugarcoat to them, whitelie to them, manipulate them, try to domineer them. Why? Because if you don't do it to them, then you don't do it to others either, which means you'll never get far in life. To them, if you're kind and honest to them, you're a loser, and therefore OUT.

I've found that being nice is an invitation to abuse. It seems that bullies expect nice people to be too nice to retaliate to bullying, yet when the nice people do retaliate, the bullies are quick to act as if they are the real victims.

So why don't you start doing those things then since you are bothered by the treatment you get?

And again, these expereiences are individual and in no way reflect the whole. Since I am not "Aspie" I take issue with the sentiment that everyone, everywhere behaves as Greentea has experienced. It certainly hasn't been true for me.

AS can't lie, cheat, etc. Part of the pathology of the syndrome is an inability to lie. I wish I could.

If you have not experienced this as the norm in NT society, then you have either led a very sheltered life, or literally have a guardian angel blessing your every move.

If you have not experienced this as the norm in NT society, then you have either led a very sheltered life, or literally have a guardian angel blessing your every move. I have not only experienced this reality myself for 35 years in the work force, I watch my wife dealing with the same situations in the company where she works. I was a radio broadcaster for 30 years and she works in health care. People are people and group dynamics create the same situations over and over - those who successfully bully and /or manipulate their peers get ahead, and those who try to actually follow the established rules and mind their own business get first ignored, then harassed, abused and driven out. If you have not experienced this, you must have spent your life quilting inside your own home, and never have had to enter the work force. It has nothing to do with individual experience, and it's certainly not the result of some karmic backlash that only happens to those who deserve it - quite the contrary - the ones who deserve bad treatment are most frequently the very ones dishing it out to those who don't.

AS can't lie, cheat, etc. Part of the pathology of the syndrome is an inability to lie. I wish I could.