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13 Dec 2008, 6:45 am

The bourgeouis life is intrinsically dull, like a living death. That's why i always avoided it.



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15 Dec 2008, 10:53 am

I can see what you mean, but I sometimes think the lives of many NTs seem to be just as unrewarding and pointless. The amount that don't really seem to have any of what I would describe as hobbies and interests is remarkable. Listen to their conversation. Many never seem to refer to something they're currently making, or the new book they read, or the fascinating place that they visited, or the subject they're studying (just for the enjoyment of learning rather than for work-related purposes). All that they appear to have done the previous night is either go out drinking, or stare at the latest poor-quality reality TV show.

The lives of NTs largely revolve around socializing. It's the social interaction that's important to them, not where it occurs or what else they're supposedly doing at the time. Have you ever mentioned visiting a place, and an NT's first question is not, "What was it like?" or, "What did you do there?" but, "Who did you go with?" If they can't socialize and are forced to be on their own for a period of time, the majority simply can't occupy themselves. Their stimulation must come from other people; they can't provide it themselves.



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15 Dec 2008, 12:20 pm

Definitely. I don't plan to have kids: once my degree's finished, I'm going to travel around the world doing odd jobs or whatever I please.

I wonder if at some level, NTs are as bored as we are- it would explain why girls seem to go for 'dangerous' guys in a lot of cases.



15 Dec 2008, 1:03 pm

I get bored when I don't work. I spend my days watching TV and doing computer, that's my boring life. I am going to go out in the snow again later today.

I hardly go anywhere. What's my excuse? The gas prices are low now. I love to travel but I don't go anywhere locally. I don't eat out or have done any activities at the community center,
and I don't go out much. But at least I am happy. Montana sucked. I needed city life. A place where there are lot of things to do.

I also work a couple dollars above minimum wage for eight hours five times a week but now that we are slow, I have been laid off pretty much. I only worked one day last week and I am off the whole week again.



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25 Dec 2008, 10:29 am

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The progression from school to work to retirement to death strikes me as boring and dull. I've lived too uninteresting a life so far, and I don't even have the memories to look back on. Instead I have a drab, rather undifferentiated experience of the passage of time. Work bores me; it pays the bills, sure, but it can be painfully dull to sit in an office in front of a computer doing something relatively meaningless to me. My current job is better than past jobs, but it seems the bulk of mind is still rather unengaged because it only uses a part of the logical, procedural mind. Outside of work, I'm not meeting people, and frankly I get too bored at home sometimes to do anything meaningful alone—I get in such a rut that it can be hard to motivate myself to clean up so that the place isn't turning into a cobweb-infested, crummy mess.

It seems the dullness causes my mind to shut off and just stop caring.

Consequence of the unrewarding aspie lifestyle and friendlessness? Anyone similar?

Tell me, do you live alone ?



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25 Dec 2008, 10:31 am

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The bourgeouis life is intrinsically dull, like a living death. That's why i always avoided it.

NT's go through life on auto-pilot, of which it has to be admitted, I am sometimes envious.
Having to think ALL the time gets monumentally tedious, sometimes.



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25 Dec 2008, 10:33 am

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I can see what you mean, but I sometimes think the lives of many NTs seem to be just as unrewarding and pointless. The amount that don't really seem to have any of what I would describe as hobbies and interests is remarkable. Listen to their conversation. Many never seem to refer to something they're currently making, or the new book they read, or the fascinating place that they visited, or the subject they're studying (just for the enjoyment of learning rather than for work-related purposes). All that they appear to have done the previous night is either go out drinking, or stare at the latest poor-quality reality TV show.

The lives of NTs largely revolve around socializing. It's the social interaction that's important to them, not where it occurs or what else they're supposedly doing at the time. Have you ever mentioned visiting a place, and an NT's first question is not, "What was it like?" or, "What did you do there?" but, "Who did you go with?" If they can't socialize and are forced to be on their own for a period of time, the majority simply can't occupy themselves. Their stimulation must come from other people; they can't provide it themselves.

Funking ret*ds (if that's true).
But think it only true of those of lower intelligence.



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25 Dec 2008, 10:44 am

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You only mention the main milestones of life. Sure, they may be boring on their own, but it's what's you find time to do in between that counts. Relationships,

Are you NT or something ?
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parties,

Is that some sort of sick joke ? ;)
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sports,

Fair, but it does often involve human beings
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social gatherings,

Aha, now I KNOW you're joking.
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nights at the movies,

Usually end in me feeling homicidal to some noisy, chuntering idiot behing me.
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fast cars,

What's your name, Rockefeller ?
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marriage,

You need a partner for that, don't you ?
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children,

Ughh ! Great in theory, but I've seen what it does to parents
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dances,

Now you're making me laugh - but carry on.
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vacations.

Yeah, now we're talking.
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Get what I'm saying? Life's not boring if you stop focusing on work. Few people like their jobs, but they're what 1) keeps us financially alive and 2) (hopefully) provides the necessary funding to neutralize the boredom of day-to-day life, if only for a few hours or minutes.

All work and no play, etc.
I've quite forgotten what it's like to do all that kinda stuff.



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25 Dec 2008, 10:48 am

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i guess im just hanging out until i leave this reality until the next.

Umm ... just one thing - what if there isn't a next reality ?

Wouldn't it be less of gamble to assume that this is the only one you get a shot at ?



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25 Dec 2008, 10:54 am

Yes, very much so.

I can't tell how much misery I've felt pondering on how mundane and ugly the human life-cycle can be when looking at it from the perspective of not being the person to find fulfilment and joy in these common ongoings.

Working? What a boring thing if done for more than a few months or years... I work to die. Great.

Family... I don't think much about that, I'm too young still. But family, romance, 24/7? What a sensible thing to do with time that must be.

There's so much more on this planet that can be done, is waiting to be discovered, played with, taken care of.

Instead society has deemed it appropriate to do nothing of that and inappropriate to touch any of it.

I'm at the stage at which my peers start to loose their dreams of these things from before fully and when they start to say things like 'well, I do this, because that's what I am supposed to do.' Not even 'because I like it' or 'because I really want to do it', no, the first answer before such opinions is 'because that is how life is supposed to go and no other way'.

What a very fascinating response and sense in life. Makes me wonder 'says who?'


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25 Dec 2008, 1:07 pm

kind of. as much as I'm still pretty excited to be on my own and doing as I please and owning a small property, it scares me to think that it's never going to change. I've always had itchy feet and if I could afford it I would just travel all the time, spend 6-10 months in places that I'd find cool or just moving on when I'd start to feel like I've had enough.

if I spend too much time in one place I sort of loose the sense of reality a bit, I start doing things automatically and my mind gets foggy. I like the buzz of the chaos of a new place, even if it gets overwhelming.

fun fact- ADHD has the biggest prevalence among nomadic peoples. go figure.


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25 Dec 2008, 1:18 pm

anna-banana wrote:
kind of. as much as I'm still pretty excited to be on my own and doing as I please and owning a small property, it scares me to think that it's never going to change. I've always had itchy feet and if I could afford it I would just travel all the time, spend 6-10 months in places that I'd find cool or just moving on when I'd start to feel like I've had enough.

if I spend too much time in one place I sort of loose the sense of reality a bit, I start doing things automatically and my mind gets foggy. I like the buzz of the chaos of a new place, even if it gets overwhelming.

fun fact- ADHD has the biggest prevalence among nomadic peoples. go figure.


I've said the same thing, if financially possible, I'd never live in the same area for more than 10 months. It kinda feels like a stim to me. The need to over stimulate myself via new surroundings.

Interesting about the ADHD thing, so it kinda seems adhd is a recessive trait, an almost vestigial thing. Kids are not odd or different, just more in-touch with a sense of being geared towards nomadic survival.



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25 Dec 2008, 1:23 pm

ThisIsNotMyRealName wrote:
NeantHumain wrote:
The progression from school to work to retirement to death strikes me as boring and dull. I've lived too uninteresting a life so far, and I don't even have the memories to look back on. Instead I have a drab, rather undifferentiated experience of the passage of time. Work bores me; it pays the bills, sure, but it can be painfully dull to sit in an office in front of a computer doing something relatively meaningless to me. My current job is better than past jobs, but it seems the bulk of mind is still rather unengaged because it only uses a part of the logical, procedural mind. Outside of work, I'm not meeting people, and frankly I get too bored at home sometimes to do anything meaningful alone—I get in such a rut that it can be hard to motivate myself to clean up so that the place isn't turning into a cobweb-infested, crummy mess.

It seems the dullness causes my mind to shut off and just stop caring.

Consequence of the unrewarding aspie lifestyle and friendlessness? Anyone similar?

Tell me, do you live alone ?

Of course I live alone.



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25 Dec 2008, 2:20 pm

my life seems like zilch withouth the intensity of my special interests.

real life is not only boring to me - it is unfathombale, foreign, alien and if i had to succumb to it day in and day out i really would check out from life. if i cannot have my special interests, it feels as if life is nothing.



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25 Dec 2008, 3:41 pm

I don't particularly like the normal life anyway this is why i have my own interests such train spotting, playing cricket and havin an unusual fetish. I couldn't see myself doin a 9-5 job gettin involved with crowded people and paying s**t load of bills, taxes just because of beneifit cheats who don't wanna work and get a council house n make dustbins lids (kids).



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04 Aug 2016, 1:31 pm

I'm happy to say that as an autistic man I have no clue what the normal life is like having never had one for even a moment of time.