Ever came across NT's you really liked?

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27 Dec 2008, 9:24 am

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Yes, my boyfriend! :)

Apart from that, no one? Must be a real cool guy.


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27 Dec 2008, 9:29 am

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Yes, my boyfriend! :)

Apart from that, no one? Must be a real cool guy.


Well I would not say no one, my whole family minus maybe 1-2 are NT. I tend not to make judgements on people simply based on their brain wiring. If you treat me ok, I'll treat you ok back, treat me like crap and you'll get that back. Maybe I base it more on personality rather than labels.



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27 Dec 2008, 9:34 am

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It happens to me sometimes, that I actually stumble over people that's kind of different from other people, they've got som kind of charisma that makes me relax in their company and makes me feel much more comfortable than I usually would do in social occations.
Don't get me wrong, I don't hate people, but sometimes it almost kills me to be in social occations, with no way to escape. Every once in a while on such occations, I meet people like I described. I think those ppl have some special ability that other people don't have. Sorry, but I feel it kind of hard to explain better, I put my trust in your intuiton, that you know what I mean?
Given that the whole of humanity's on the NT scale - or the AS scale (it's one), I'll think you'll find that it's the pleasant NT's that you'll find most agreeable, as opposed to the pleasant AS'ers.



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27 Dec 2008, 9:36 am

All my friends are NT but I've one 'NT' friend who I feel completely comfortable around. Who is very open and aware and accepting. Love her to death. Rest are just 'friends' who just think I'm a bit wierd.



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27 Dec 2008, 9:42 am

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all my friends are NTs. they are really a great resource when it comes to human behaviours I wouldn't otherwise understand. plus they are all very tolerant, non-judgemental NTs who don't mind my being the way I am.

Thanx for replying, you must be one lucky girl. You're young, and I beg you to hold on to your friends. If I did not have the job, I probably just sit here talking to the dog,myself and the walls. Getting weirder and weirder, as time goes by. I believe, after all, that input from others, and trying to give something back, is something valuable, even if one lack some emotions.


yeah my dog is a great listener too but I try not to burden him with too much rambling :wink:

it's funny how I always thought my social skills were great, judging only by the way I interact with my close friends (all of whom I've known for over 22 years). I get along well with people I'm introduced to by my friends as well. but being thrown into a group situation where I don't know a soul is always a total disaster and a reality check when it comes to my real social skills. they suck :p


Usually they do, just the reason why I started this discussion, who sucks your energy out, and who gives you energy back?


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27 Dec 2008, 10:17 am

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It happens to me sometimes, that I actually stumble over people that's kind of different from other people, they've got som kind of charisma that makes me relax in their company and makes me feel much more comfortable than I usually would do in social occations.
Don't get me wrong, I don't hate people, but sometimes it almost kills me to be in social occations, with no way to escape. Every once in a while on such occations, I meet people like I described. I think those ppl have some special ability that other people don't have. Sorry, but I feel it kind of hard to explain better, I put my trust in your intuiton, that you know what I mean?
Given that the whole of humanity's on the NT scale - or the AS scale (it's one), I'll think you'll find that it's the pleasant NT's that you'll find most agreeable, as opposed to the pleasant AS'ers.

Have not concidered just that part, but then I really don't know that much about AS people either, cause I don't really know many AS ppl at all. Just what I've learned after joining this site. I just know how it is to navigate in this hellish pool, called; the world, when feeling different. Makes you a hell of a navigator, if you survive long enough


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27 Dec 2008, 10:56 am

I don't really like the term "NT" because it seems to be classifying all my friends - who almost certainly don't have AS - as if they have something in particular that's wrong with them. When I first read about "neurotypical disorder" it obviously seemed to me like a joke, but I guess people are bound to take it seriously.



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27 Dec 2008, 11:02 am

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Usually they do, just the reason why I started this discussion, who sucks your energy out, and who gives you energy back?


ok I'm not sure about the energy thing but I usually have to recover in isolation after most social situations. there were loads of times though when me & friends went for a weekend out of town together or for a short holiday somewhere and we got along fine, everyone was just relaxing and there was no pressure to talk or to behave like a grown-up :p

I only get nervous when my friends meet some new friends and it comes to the whole introduction ritual. I would usually just avoid the whole group for a few weeks before getting used to the thought that there's an extra person there now. I usually get along with them fine after a while, but I bet that it's because they've been warned about my odd behaviour lol


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27 Dec 2008, 11:03 am

This topic's title makes me feel sad. Like it's highly unusual and strange to find any NTs likeable. Not true at all, at least in my case. My girlfriend is NT, as are most of my friends. I really like them.


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27 Dec 2008, 11:21 am

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This topic's title makes me feel sad. Like it's highly unusual and strange to find any NTs likeable. Not true at all, at least in my case. My girlfriend is NT, as are most of my friends. I really like them.

Not intended to do just that. You and your girlfriend, just walk on, no big deal. I just wanted to actually know if somebody out there have this feeling. Simple as that.


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27 Dec 2008, 11:33 am

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It happens to me sometimes, that I actually stumble over people that's kind of different from other people, they've got som kind of charisma that makes me relax in their company and makes me feel much more comfortable than I usually would do in social occations.
Don't get me wrong, I don't hate people, but sometimes it almost kills me to be in social occations, with no way to escape. Every once in a while on such occations, I meet people like I described. I think those ppl have some special ability that other people don't have. Sorry, but I feel it kind of hard to explain better, I put my trust in your intuiton, that you know what I mean?


The person you describe is my NT husband. He has a lot of passionate dedicated work from employees in his groups where he defends Muslims who want to pray at a certain time even if they are in a meeting, got an important manager fired who was making racial threats at a Jewish engineer, and where a guy was going to get fired because they had to eliminate someone and decided they should get rid of the black guy because he was black. He keeps personal biases out of the workplace and supports & enables people who want to do their jobs.

He is enabling, empowering and supportive. Especially of minority views and points.

It may seem like a small thing, but it takes a lot of balls in the real world to go out and support and enable those that others want to marginalize or belittle. You have to go against group sentiment and popularity measures to do things like that, but when you do, you establish an environment where people's ideas and performance flower. It's like opening the floodgates, when you are able to establish a free-thinking environment in an intellectual workplace.

People from all over his division of his company apply to work on projects my husband manages. His bosses appoint him to look into groups who are falling behind schedule and budget, to troubleshoot what is going wrong in the teamworking.

I agree with the ideas in your posts about special people who empower you and make it possible for you to be stronger in a situation than you might normally be. Except for the "charisma" part. I think charisma is a separate social trait that is independent of how good or bad someone is as an influence in your life. Undermining people can have charisma, too. They just give the sensation of being empowering or supportive if they feel like doling it out.



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27 Dec 2008, 11:38 am

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Usually they do, just the reason why I started this discussion, who sucks your energy out, and who gives you energy back?


ok I'm not sure about the energy thing but I usually have to recover in isolation after most social situations. there were loads of times though when me & friends went for a weekend out of town together or for a short holiday somewhere and we got along fine, everyone was just relaxing and there was no pressure to talk or to behave like a grown-up :p

I only get nervous when my friends meet some new friends and it comes to the whole introduction ritual. I would usually just avoid the whole group for a few weeks before getting used to the thought that there's an extra person there now. I usually get along with them fine after a while, but I bet that it's because they've been warned about my odd behaviour lol


Just try to picture yourself, anyone getting even close to your own thoughts, and what you would like the world to be.


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27 Dec 2008, 11:45 am

Interesting, I never met anyone whose presence made me feel empowered. Till now, I've only felt more empowered when alone.


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27 Dec 2008, 12:09 pm

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It happens to me sometimes, that I actually stumble over people that's kind of different from other people, they've got som kind of charisma that makes me relax in their company and makes me feel much more comfortable than I usually would do in social occations.
Don't get me wrong, I don't hate people, but sometimes it almost kills me to be in social occations, with no way to escape. Every once in a while on such occations, I meet people like I described. I think those ppl have some special ability that other people don't have. Sorry, but I feel it kind of hard to explain better, I put my trust in your intuiton, that you know what I mean?


The person you describe is my NT husband. He has a lot of passionate dedicated work from employees in his groups where he defends Muslims who want to pray at a certain time even if they are in a meeting, got an important manager fired who was making racial threats at a Jewish engineer, and where a guy was going to get fired because they had to eliminate someone and decided they should get rid of the black guy because he was black. He keeps personal biases out of the workplace and supports & enables people who want to do their jobs.

He is enabling, empowering and supportive. Especially of minority views and points.

It may seem like a small thing, but it takes a lot of balls in the real world to go out and support and enable those that others want to marginalize or belittle. You have to go against group sentiment and popularity measures to do things like that, but when you do, you establish an environment where people's ideas and performance flower. It's like opening the floodgates, when you are able to establish a free-thinking environment in an intellectual workplace.

People from all over his division of his company apply to work on projects my husband manages. His bosses appoint him to look into groups who are falling behind schedule and budget, to troubleshoot what is going wrong in the teamworking.

I agree with the ideas in your posts about special people who empower you and make it possible for you to be stronger in a situation than you might normally be. Except for the "charisma" part. I think charisma is a separate social trait that is independent of how good or bad someone is as an influence in your life. Undermining people can have charisma, too. They just give the sensation of being empowering or supportive if they feel like doling it out.

Well, I have noticed you from my very start at this forum. You allways give like kind and diplomatic answers, but you also point out in a kind way, when you think people goes wrong. I think you're a good person. I just keep forgetting how it is like to live in this s**thole, called the world, and almost be non-real. Here, I'm allways half real, anyway


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27 Dec 2008, 12:31 pm

anna-banana wrote:
mosez wrote:

Usually they do, just the reason why I started this discussion, who sucks your energy out, and who gives you energy back?


ok I'm not sure about the energy thing but I usually have to recover in isolation after most social situations. there were loads of times though when me & friends went for a weekend out of town together or for a short holiday somewhere and we got along fine, everyone was just relaxing and there was no pressure to talk or to behave like a grown-up :p

I only get nervous when my friends meet some new friends and it comes to the whole introduction ritual. I would usually just avoid the whole group for a few weeks before getting used to the thought that there's an extra person there now. I usually get along with them fine after a while, but I bet that it's because they've been warned about my odd behaviour lol

Yeah, I hate it too. To be introduced to new people, handshakes, eyecontact etc..etc.... If I live forever, I feel I never can obtain those skills, no matter what.


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27 Dec 2008, 12:34 pm

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Yeah, I hate it too. To be introduced to new people, handshakes, eyecontact etc..etc.... If I live forever, I feel I never can obtain those skills, no matter what.


exactly. that's why I only like people that I already know ;p


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