30 Dec 2008, 5:14 pm
ignisfatuus wrote:
gbollard wrote:
Rafter613 wrote:
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If the sum of gain is larger than the sum of loss, it's good.
By that, I do not mean X amount of things, but points. If thingA gives you 10 points, and thingB gives 4, then A is better. If you have three Bs, and one A, B is better.
Same thought here. Morality should be about efficiency. By the same logic, if someone needs money more then I do, they should have it, so I give it to them (my logic for charity).By that, I do not mean X amount of things, but points. If thingA gives you 10 points, and thingB gives 4, then A is better. If you have three Bs, and one A, B is better.
That's communism and it doesn't work.
Reason: John needs the money more than I do because he can't be bothered working. (I know that not everyone is like this but many are).
I see that John doesn't need to work because everything is free for him. Similarly, I'm sick of working my butt off doing 12 hours a day (which I often do) only to have my money taken away from me. (which Tax already does - though not as much as you're suggesting). I get no rewards for my hard work... so I stop working hard.
The economy collapses.
It seems like everyone is piling on you for that response so I will add one more
While the the initial premise is largely impractical, you're going to see something in a slightly similar vein implemented with the incoming US administration, i.e. wealth redistribution. Although it won't be anything more radical than rescinding tax cuts to the wealthy minority, I personally don't think any one person needs more than, say, 50 million dollars. By the way, do you think government bailouts of banks is communist?
I didn't pay it too much attention- I get wound up with everything happening around me personally as it is... but at first glance it seemed socialist and the media were hinting that it was socialism (not communism). The bank bailouts p****d the /right/ wing media off and the left wing at the same time. That made me lol. As stated before communism isn't going to give motivation to work- unless it is willing, and I think socialism has the ability to get over that problem if it is approached in the right way. But what hippocrites those politicians, bankers, various corperations etc are. The only good thing is that it exposed them for what they really are- to both the true believers and supporters of the right and the left; they are selfish, greedy twats who take advantage of anything, anybody and any belief/part of the political spectrum the get their own way. The world is more aware for it.
30 Dec 2008, 7:25 pm
ignisfatuus wrote:
It seems like everyone is piling on you for that response so I will add one more While the the initial premise is largely impractical, you're going to see something in a slightly similar vein implemented with the incoming US administration, i.e. wealth redistribution. Although it won't be anything more radical than rescinding tax cuts to the wealthy minority, I personally don't think any one person needs more than, say, 50 million dollars.
By the way, do you think government bailouts of banks is communist?
While the the initial premise is largely impractical, you're going to see something in a slightly similar vein implemented with the incoming US administration, i.e. wealth redistribution. Although it won't be anything more radical than rescinding tax cuts to the wealthy minority, I personally don't think any one person needs more than, say, 50 million dollars. By the way, do you think government bailouts of banks is communist?
I don't think that bailing out banks is communist - after all, you should be able to trust a bank with your money... it's not a matter of luck.
Bailing out the stock exchange however is not on. The people who invest there wouldn't give money away if they suddenly got a windfall. They know it's a gamble.
What I object to is the fact that I struggle at work and that I often work 12 hours per day - five days a week, and then come home to housework and family work. I've got friends who get up at 12 noon and potter around the house then go to bed. They're younger and stronger than me and while admittedly some have good excuses - so I'm not pointing at them, others don't work because they don't want to.
I sometimes wonder why I'm putting myself out so much when about half of what I earn goes to support people who don't really deserve it while others who I feel do deserve more support just aren't getting any.
31 Dec 2008, 9:09 am
gbollard wrote:
Well, here's a good example ...
My Rule
If something is shown on TV overseas but we don't get it here in Australia, then it's ok to torrent it.
When it gets released here on DVD though, you have to either buy it or throw your torrented files away.
Society's Rule
Torrenting is always naughty.
My Rule
If something is shown on TV overseas but we don't get it here in Australia, then it's ok to torrent it.
When it gets released here on DVD though, you have to either buy it or throw your torrented files away.
Society's Rule
Torrenting is always naughty.
My rule:
Torrent everything all the time
Greedy record copyright goons' rule:
Use torrents and we make your ISP cut off your internet
Greedy bastards.
Oh yeah, did you know the guy who made BitTorrent (Bram Cohen) is a Aspie?
