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07 Jan 2009, 9:31 pm

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This is interesting. I have thought about posting a thread on this general topic for some time. I know that, in my case, I have no water signs anywhere in my chart (water signs tend to be more emotive than rational). Neptune and Uranus are also prominent in my chart.



Interesting! I have only 1 water sign in my chart, but my rising sign is a water sign. Also, I have Uranus in the first house.


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07 Jan 2009, 10:37 pm

As one born in 1953 who knows she's DIFFERENT......who can say when it all started......it MUST be part of God's Plan, that's the likeliest explanation, imo. To note: There is a LOT of truth to Astrology. Is it all 'truth'....no!, but some of it fundamentally CAN'T just be a coincidence. Every member of my family (6 people) FITS their sign. And until I saw that reality I used to think Astrology was imaginary. There is SOMETHING to it. Sagittarius Sola



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08 Jan 2009, 12:04 am

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Articles like this are what makes the general public believe ASDs are just made up to get attention or excuses for undisciplined children.


That would be because the general public are irrational. People they disbelieve, whether they're astrologers or mediums or whatever are going to talk about anything and everything that exists in the world. It has nothing to do with the phenomenon itself.


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08 Jan 2009, 12:08 am

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I think that it is changes in society which have made more and more AS visible by disabling us with increased noise, chemicals, speed/time-pressures, multi-tasking in many jobs, high rate of change in most areas of life, less security/stability in careers, and far more social and business contact with strangers, etc etc etc.

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08 Jan 2009, 12:45 am

think about this for a minute...

we have this one star. absolutely everything we do, think, feel, create, imagine, and aspire toward is oriented around this one star. our entire lives revolve quite literally around this one star. that one star is our sun and as it is literally located at the core of our being, it orchestrates our existence and who we are.

in beautiful concentric orbits, at least 9 known planets revolve about our sun: the tiniest orbit is occupied by mercury, then comes venus, earth, mars, jupiter, saturn, uranus, neptune and the greatest orbit of all is occupied by intimidating pluto. pluto's orbit forms the boundary or the limits of our existence as we rotate about our core, our 'soul' in a way. it is pluto that keeps us all in line and its lessons are always excruciatingly painful. that is until we willingly relinquish our egos.

like clockwork, at regular intervals orbits are completed by each planet as it rotates around the sun. with the completion of every revolution of every planet around our sun, the energies present in our solar system are intensified, reaffirmed and drummed out like the beat of some unique dance of light, unique to our own special solar system. the energies of these planets and the geometrical relationships formed between them---may or may not affect our lives, may or may not be critical.

i think they are. in fact i think that if there is a soul of any kind anywhere, it is our sun. because the sun is the center of our existence, and scientifically speaking, we may never know any other kind of existence - ever.

what you see is what you get. we may not literally see all the planets in our solar system but we know they are there. and earth is the 3rd planet. yeah. we're number 3. awesome. 3 of 9.

i've spent more than half my life trying to figure out if there is anything to astrology and [for me] undoubtedly there is. a hundred years from now, if humans haven't self annihilated, quantum theory will be common knowledge. kids in kindergarten will have a basic knowledge of it because their parents, siblings and teachers will show them how it works. astrology will be recombined with astronomy and astronomy will be united with parallel universe theory. we will harness anti-matter for the first time in the history of the solar system. well, maybe not the first time, maybe not even the first time for number 3 of 9. and we will attempt to retrieve the antiquated fragments of astrology still remaining in the texts which have survived book burning fanatics.

but where autism fits into all this is anyone's guess. my special interest is astrology and my sun is exactly conjunct uranus, to the degree and within a few minutes. consciousness is ruled by uranus and saturn. saturn represents ego and it has to be shattered before uranian energies can function unimpeded. mercury rules primitive mind including the conducting of business affairs. mercury rules the signs gemini and virgo and is exalted in virgo which is the most intelligent and geeky sign.

i would say look to virgo if you want to know about the top end of the autism spectrum.



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08 Jan 2009, 6:25 am

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Everything we do, think, feel, create, imagine, and aspire toward is oriented around one star, [ the sun ]. Our entire lives revolve quite literally around it. ... Pluto's orbit forms the boundary or the limits of our existence as we rotate about our core, [ the sun ]. It is Pluto that keeps us all in line and its lessons are excruciatingly painful, until we willingly relinquish our egos. ... With each revolution of a planet around our sun, the energies present in our solar system are intensified, reaffirmed and drummed out like the beat of some unique dance of light. ... If there is a soul of any kind anywhere, it is our sun.

Beautifully put.

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Mercury rules the signs gemini and virgo and is exalted in virgo which is the most intelligent and geeky sign. I would say look to virgo if you want to know about the top end of the autism spectrum.

Interesting.

With ref. Saturn: Saturn is in Virgo at the moment, in opposition to Uranus, ( which has been in Pisces for a while now and will be for another couple of years ). Saturn has just this week gone into retrograde so will prolong the opposition, and won't leave Virgo for another year.

PS. Not only do I have Uranus and Pluto in Virgo, as do many people born in, and around, the 60's, but Mercury too, as do many people born in the late summer/autumn.

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I feel that astrology can serve as a sort of barometer of current trends in society.

Me too. :)
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08 Jan 2009, 9:26 pm

saturn in virgo op uranus in pisces. this could be a good year for those of us on the spectrum as status quo is challenged on many fronts. the aspect may help many more of us throw off our chains and the opportunities for doing so may be greater that ever before.

we should be listening more carefully to LFAs as they strive to find new ways of connecting...



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08 Jan 2009, 11:13 pm

I am an astrologer and that is an interesting article but there is more to it than it said. Thanks for the posting :D



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08 Jan 2009, 11:21 pm

Oh and even though they say that Mercury is exalted in Virgo (where it also rules), Mercury is actually exalted in Aquarius. And speaking of Mercury, those who study astrology know whats coming to us as of Sunday, starting Sunday anyway... the effects are in already, sure explains why I am having a rough time posting tonight.



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09 Jan 2009, 2:48 am

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hartzofspace wrote:
ouinon wrote:
I think that it is changes in society which have made more and more AS visible by disabling us with increased noise, chemicals, speed/time-pressures, multi-tasking in many jobs, high rate of change in most areas of life, less security/stability in careers, and far more social and business contact with strangers, etc etc etc.

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No, Quoted For Truth.


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I am an astrologer and that is an interesting article but there is more to it than it said. Thanks for the posting :D


You're welcome! :)


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09 Jan 2009, 2:51 am

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Oh and even though they say that Mercury is exalted in Virgo (where it also rules), Mercury is actually exalted in Aquarius. And speaking of Mercury, those who study astrology know whats coming to us as of Sunday, starting Sunday anyway... the effects are in already, sure explains why I am having a rough time posting tonight.


:( Uh oh. I'm expecting some important mail. I hope there won't be problems with it!


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09 Jan 2009, 10:04 am

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Oh and even though they say that Mercury is exalted in Virgo (where it also rules), Mercury is actually exalted in Aquarius. And speaking of Mercury, those who study astrology know whats coming to us as of Sunday, starting Sunday anyway... the effects are in already, sure explains why I am having a rough time posting tonight.


:( Uh oh. I'm expecting some important mail. I hope there won't be problems with it!


Unfortunately it might unless there is something in this letter that will bring you some kind of fated event. Lots of things go wrong during this phase... I just remember how brutal the last one was.



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09 Jan 2009, 10:40 am

retrograde mercury occurs about every 4 months. the moon is almost full and mercury is in its station to retrograde. in the moon cycle, full moon marks a crescendo of sorts for whatever has been building since new moon....so mercury's station to retrograde will be felt more intensely, more acutely than usual friday and over the weekend due to full moon influence.

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according to vedic astrology mercury is exalted in virgo. a case can be made for its exaltation in virgo or aquarius, but i will attempt to show why virgo may be considered its more appropriate exaltation position.

uranus is said to be the higher octave of mercury and uranus rules aquarius which is why in western astrology mercury is sometimes said to be exalted in aquarius. [and it does hold true for venus being exalted in neptune's pisces, as neptune is higher octave of venus]. to have a quiet mind is wonderful but not so kind to mercury. aquarius tends to make mercury quiet and to diminish its energy because mercury can't do its thing in aquarius. good for us, bad for mercury.

virgo on the other hand is like sharpening a pencil, with mercury being the pencil. virgo refines, quickens, makes mercury more precise and effective, enabling mercury to operate at its greatest speed and potential...like a well qualified high-paid geek. mercury isn't naturally equipped to make use of the extremely unstable and high frequency energies available in aquarius, so it merely stands by and watches what is going on....it can't actively participate.

mercury is a young child, full of noisy energy and enthusiasm, racing around and talking up a storm. that is its natural state. to make mercury quiet is to make it uncomfortable [by definition, exaltation means the planet is very comfortable in its exaltation sign and performs best there].

so it depends on whether you want mercury to be itself, which is to perform like a valuable tool, or to completely bow out and let more capable planets take over its function. do you want to spiritualize mercury in which case mercury isn't really mercury?...or do you want mercury operating at lightning fast speeds, highly paid and in demand for its skills - in which case it is performing optimally?

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i prefer a spiritual mercury but from mercury's point of view it will have the most fun in virgo, not aquarius. i want my mercury quiet which means my mercury is old and tired, ready to abdicate/capitulate. mercury is youthful and energetic, the last thing it wants is to rest.



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09 Jan 2009, 1:27 pm

What you say about Mercury is true.. in fact there is a LOT of debate over this. And yes, Uranus is the higher octave of Mercury. Other than humanitarianism, uniqueness and independence, Aquarius rules high intellect, science, and innovation. Mercury rules communication and this is why I see it being exalted here, where it increases mental energy.. which is needed for these advancements obviously. Do you think that Mercury does well in Leo? Maybe this is more of a personal thing to me as well because I have Mercury in Leo which does not at all do well here. In my case which makes it worse is that it squares my Moon (which is exalted, in Taurus btw).

And yes, this full Moon it will be felt even more because of where the Moon is in, in it's home, Cancer. You know a lot about astrology, how long have you been studying it for?



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09 Jan 2009, 4:04 pm

Hmmmm, interesting article. I´m not sure what to say about it...

I do question whether autism really is on the rise. More is known about it now, especially the more mild presentations, so it´s being diagnosed more.

Don´t know much about astrology, and it never really worked for me, though I know some people swear by it, so it must work for someone- (somebody did my chart once, but she didn´t "get" me at all; typical, just like in life)! One thing I thought was kind of funny about this article was that I always told people I was from another planet: I would say that rather than being from Venus- (as they say women are, ha ha)- that I was actually from Neptune instead.

Now, was it just coincidence that I chose Neptune???

(I even toyed with "choosing" Uranus, but I decided I didn´t like the sound of that. I mean, it sounds funny to tell someone you come form their anus. Sorry, I just couldn´t resist that...but it is true, though...)


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