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Which person do you relate to?
John Carley---the support group leader 14%  14%  [ 3 ]
Nicky "the new guy" 5%  5%  [ 1 ]
Carl "the engineer with the beard" 14%  14%  [ 3 ]
The guy who gets Germany and Austria mixed up 5%  5%  [ 1 ]
Michael, the guy with the shaved head behind Nicky 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
The guy beside Nicky who mentions "Oklahoma" 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Older guy with white hair/glasses "Star Trek and Data" 32%  32%  [ 7 ]
The lady after the meeting with black hair "Paxal, Zolof" 18%  18%  [ 4 ]
The ladies in red shirts after the meeting 5%  5%  [ 1 ]
Other in the video---though they didn't speak here 9%  9%  [ 2 ]
Total votes : 22

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12 Jan 2009, 4:45 am

I can relate to them all but if the question is which one is like me, none of them in a huge way. I am sort of talkative and sometimes argumentative in groups.

Though that lady, with the Paxil and Zoloft, presents a little like me in some ways. She is a lot quieter than me, but I have seen myself in videos and I have the same style of evading eye contact and speaking too openly about personal matters. I like being around aspies because I have odd body language and awkward ways of appearing and it is great to be in a room full of others with similar awkwardnesses because I can blend right in. Really, that is all I want.



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12 Jan 2009, 1:12 pm

mosez, thanks for posting that video of yourself. You're a very nice dog.


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12 Jan 2009, 1:40 pm

You're welcome. It's a mixed race, but his father was all border collie. He loves to play, fetching things and so on. He's ten years, never been sick and always in a good mood. It's great to have a buddy like him, he helps me to stay in shape.
I put up the video also as a sample of how I speak. It's me talking, but the dog on the vid. In case someone wondered


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12 Jan 2009, 2:15 pm

Well, since you said you were showing a video of you, I assumed you were the dog... I tend to take things literally.

(just kidding)

Now seriously, I had a severe envy attack watching your video. Norway looks so beautiful, just the opposite of this desert where I live.

But you have a heavy diction problem. I couldn't make out one word of what you say on the video.

(kidding again, I know you said it's Norwegian)


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12 Jan 2009, 2:22 pm

marshall, what bothers me is that I can't get past the odd diction and body language. I'm as prejudiced as an NT, I guess. And to be honest, I wouldn't enjoy the company of someone who never looked me in the eye, sometimes stared at me with no apparent reason, monologued about the reproduction of the acephalous mosquito.


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12 Jan 2009, 3:05 pm

When I first watched the video I was thinking, "Whoa, I don't act like that...do I?" I have watched that video over and over again trying to see how I would fit in with that group. I don't have mannerisms like that...wait a minute. I stim. I do this funny hand thing where I pop my thumbs a lot...and I like to take a pencil if I have one and lightly move it across my face then scratch my face afterwards, and if I don't have a pencil I will use my fingers instead to lightly tickle my face or neck...I sometimes squirm around in my seat a lot...hmmmmm, I might fit in. Oh, and sometimes I like to lightly move one of my little fingers across my eyelids and eyelashes, then lightly scratch.

However, I still don't think I act like that. I have asked some people who have known me from when I was in school, and I asked them to be honest and tell me how they perceived me in school. And they have said I was very quiet and eccentric. So I guess, from that perspective I appear to them as odd. My wife says I appeared to her as eccentric when we were dating, but that she was attracted to that aspect of me. On our first date I educated her on the history of the roller coaster. Then on later dates I used to show her house plan books. On the phone, I loved to share my interests with her. We dated for 7 years before we got married. We now have 2 sons.

I can recall many times growing up my mom saying to me, "You look like you're a million miles away." I guess socially I was. I daydreamed a lot...and I still do. But I have forced myself to try to fit in socially the best that I can. But it is difficult.

I think I could have a nice conversation with most of my fellow Aspies in that video. But I would probably struggle the most with Nicky, "the new guy." I do feel sad over how he tried so hard to fit in with the girl on Zolof, and the women in red. I think he is truly lonely and trying to find a niche to fit in. Hopefully he has found it in Carley's support group.

Ever since I was diagnosed with Asperger's, I have found myself a little more aware of my social difficulties. I told this to my therapist, and he agreed that that could happen. But he also told me ways to help me cope with my social struggles. Time will tell if I can improve on those issues. Maybe there is a seat in that support group for me afterall.



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12 Jan 2009, 3:22 pm

I relate most strongly to the older white haired guy with glasses. Not only did I love Star Trek(especially Data) but I too have watched MANY shows, and even entire series with the very same goal in mind. Most of what I watch I watch because I enjoy it, but even then I am always analyzing the interactions the characters have with each other in order to learn new insight into how to properly interact with others that I might someday meet.

I also felt like I related to Carl, the engineer. As a kid I would annoy my parents by taking apart every electronic thing they gave me. I usually put them back together right, but the times I didn't really pissed them off, mainly because we didn't have that much money to spend on electronics(this was when we would rent a vcr for the weekend). I also have a beard, though nowhere near as neat as his. I just shaved my head(everything but the eyebrows) a little over 2 years ago and haven't cut a hair since.

Hearing the leader state what percentage of communication is body language, tone and actual words disturbed me. For years I have been complaining that people don't say what they mean, and trying to figure it out from body language is no better than guessing.



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12 Jan 2009, 3:31 pm

None.

They're all so... normal in how they behave, but weird with their words.

I'm opposite!

I behave noticeably odd, and talk normal to slurred.

When I'm in front of an audience I'm bouncing all over the place and am naturally overly engaged. Also, when I try to keep up a normal pace of speech, my speech and language are noticeably disordered, it's hard to understand what I'm talking about.

These people look as if in stupor, totally uninteresting to listen. But they sound like professors who know perfectly way how to sound intelligent and how to get their words across.

Maybe it's just my ADHD, but I'm not sure.

On a side note, that was a perfect example of why people with AS are appear overly intelligent. many of them have a way with words. I feel that sometimes people want to make me fit into that stereotype too and then wonder why I don't fit. It's annoying.


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12 Jan 2009, 5:54 pm

Greentea wrote:
marshall, what bothers me is that I can't get past the odd diction and body language. I'm as prejudiced as an NT, I guess. And to be honest, I wouldn't enjoy the company of someone who never looked me in the eye, sometimes stared at me with no apparent reason, monologued about the reproduction of the acephalous mosquito.

:lol:
I wouldn't enjoy the company of someone who monologues about a single subject either. I was talking more about the ones who might have an odd voice inflection and mannerisms but still have intelligent things to share and are able to hold my interest. I admit that I have trouble tuning out their oddness of presentation and it does somewhat interfere with my ability to communicate, but if they are otherwise intelligent and interesting people I try my best. I really don't want to be a hypocrite. :(



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12 Jan 2009, 7:11 pm

I definitely feel like I related most to the gray haired Star Trek guy and the lady in the red shirt (the one on the right that talks less). The man seemed to speak a lot like I do and woman seemed to stand and interact a lot like I do.

I don't have a diagnosis, and I don't know if I will ever try to get one. Most of the people I see in videos like that seem more severe than I feel that I am.

Something interesting I noticed is it seemed like the men in the video were much more twitchy and quirky than the women. I have to wonder if the women are more able to learn to overcome visual symptoms.


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12 Jan 2009, 7:26 pm

That "Nicky" is one rude sonuvabitch. I'd've had to have harsh words with him and his grotesque manners- particularly to the women.



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12 Jan 2009, 11:02 pm

I chose the paxil lady. She seemed quite a lot like me, very quiet, wanting to interact, but not sure how.

Of course, I'm probably not the best judge of my own character. I'd most likely be shocked to see all of my awkwardness, and quirks if someone were to videotape me while I was attempting to socialize in a group like that.



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13 Jan 2009, 10:48 am

Greentea wrote:
Well, since you said you were showing a video of you, I assumed you were the dog... I tend to take things literally.

(just kidding)

Now seriously, I had a severe envy attack watching your video. Norway looks so beautiful, just the opposite of this desert where I live.

But you have a heavy diction problem. I couldn't make out one word of what you say on the video.

(kidding again, I know you said it's Norwegian)


You have a great sense of humor, and I like to think I have too. Amazing how different places in the world is exotic for anybody but them who actually lives there. I actually come from the north-west in norway, where the nature is much more spectacular than here. (south)
You must try a search for Geiranger, I lived near by that fjord and the city Alesund. http://www.visitalesund.com/ I just posted the link :D


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13 Jan 2009, 11:54 am

Not there.

The person who doesn't say anything and stares at the ground hoping for the pain to end, is me. Throw in some motor mannerisms due to being in such close proximity to people I don't know (rocking, hand twirling, or it might just be simple nail and skin picking). If I'm having a good day, I might give a one or two word answer to something if I'm asked ('What's your name?' 'Daniel is my name.'), but otherwise, talking would be out of my reach due to being so overwhelmed (even simple mechanical questions and answers).

However, I'd laugh when I heard the dude talk about the cathode ray tube and other parts of the TV, as that's so...stereotypical.



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13 Jan 2009, 1:46 pm

mosez, what were you telling the dog at the beginning? You kept repeating the same thing, was it come here?

The link is in Norwegian... :(


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13 Jan 2009, 2:04 pm

Oh, yes! I asked him to find a stick, and then he take a leak. I laugh a bit and ask him to find a stick again, then I ask him if I shall toss it, the rest is in the movie.
Did you mean the link I posted last? There is an english flag to the left you need to click the flag.


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