*sing* "We don't need no cure..."

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do it to the tune of that one song...
We dont need no education, we dont need no though control
(granted the double negatives are in fact saying we do need your education, we do need thought control, but it probablly falls under the same creative grammer/syntax of poems, or you can coorerect it in your version)

WHAT THERES NO CURE
i don't get why poeple are so insulted by others wanting a cure, sure its part of us but hey its not a good quality to have

What??

Did he/she/it crack under the pressure of working for people he/she/it couldn't handle for too long? Just how long has this person been working with our kind of people?

A lot of things seem like "not good qualities to have" at 16...by the time you are 25 most of them look a lot like aspects of growing up.

Having revived this thread, let me ask you, very seriously, what you think a "cure" would change about the person you are?

Whenever I try to REALLY think about that, it's all too complex and tied into the fabric of who I am...any realistic neurological change that could be made would honestly do at least as much damage as good to the quality of my life.

M

Nah...

In the case of prospective in-law you just have a poor-little-rich-kid with a bad habit on control who found an outlet in the traditional "do gooder" role and tried to annex me...what is a little shocking is that it would be impossible for anyone to work in mental health in the UK without being aware that there are formally acknowledged to be no resources available for adults with Asperger Syndrome. So this person was actually trying to berate me for not doing something they knew to be impossible...which is a pretty cruel, and calculated kind of bullying.

The Canadian stalker is always trying to do that kind of thing to anyone who doesn't flatter and submit to her (for all I know, the in law may be too - but I wasn't going to stick around to find out!).

As far as I know, only the in-law has ever worked with autistics at all, and then (mercifully), very little, but both seem to currently work with vulnerable teens...and I suspect we were all in that category once ("our kind of people"?).

It REALLY shocks me that, at least when it come to vulnerable young people, there are no psych evals to filter out toxic people like this.

If either of these two beauties stands around trying to push buttons on a volatile, disturbed teenager the way they have tried to push mine (and common sense tells me they must, regularly) sooner or later these kids explode and get their whole lives written off.

...and they wonder why I don't have much faith in "caring professions"...

M

now i never said i wanted a cure after all its just personality so it wouldnt work its who i am.
if you did lose these traits then they would have to be replaced by other traits then it would not be you, would it and you could end up being something you would not like, but you may like it as you will not have the same opinion than you would of as you would be a different person
basically i just dont like how people critacise people for wanting one if they want one they can want one its not your disicion its theres
that was a mouthfull

That's a good post actually...pretty much sums up the way I see it too...I don't think there IS a clear, succinct way to express that.

Nobody should criticise anyone who wants a "cure" for themselves...the trouble is that the most vocal of these "Curebies" want to cure *other people*, not themselves.

They also harvest a significant proportion of the available resources, often in pursuit of ideas that have already been disproved...when those resources would be far more usefully deployed on providing the supports we need but cannot get because of lack of funding.

M

Last edited by mechanima on 15 Feb 2009, 4:30 pm, edited 1 time in total.

thats why i jarbled out stuff

now thats different its the individuals disicion not theres, you see it works both ways
o and tank ye for sayin its a good post, appreciated
edit: maybe some of these that want cures for others is just them caring and not realising that others do not want a cure (hmm thats really badly written i hope it makes sense )

They have all sorts of reasons. For some it is arrogance, for some it's about denial, for some it's even about straighforward $$$s, but I am sure some of them care...just in a misguided way...

Chinese women used bind their daughter's feet because they cared...but the child's real best interests were buried under a perceived need to conform to a social demand.

The worrying thing is that anyone who thinks autism can be "cured" really doesn't understand what autism IS.

I do believe that some chronic conditions that fall within the autism spectrum may be fully, or partially preventable, and I believe that you can limit the effects of autism by taking the best possible appropriate physical, mental and emotional care of your child...or, of course, yourself.

M

or they know what it is and believe so strongly or want it so strongly they still beleive in one being possible
or they just havent thought about the fact that autism is them and think its just something they have (but i suppose thats what you meant)

...maybe when some people say they want to be "cured", what they really mean is that they want their whole life "fixed"?

Not just and autistic thing, people often expect to achieve that in the strangest ways...it must be one of the top 5 reasons why people have cosmetic surgery...because they think it will fix their whole life..

M.

thats a little strong to say that they want there life fixed but i see were your coming from
although they would still have a past and people would know them so it would not fix there life but i suppose thats what you were saying (again )