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30 Jan 2009, 1:24 pm

elizabethhensley wrote:
They haven't phased mercury out of all vaccines. It is still in every flu shot. They are recommending pregnant woman get flu shots and that children get a flu shot every year. The results of this is children are getting more mercury than ever.

They have replaced the mercury in the other shots with aluminum, another neurotoxin.

Every live virus shot contains MSG a known excitotoxin. MSG also hides in many foods under 30 different names so no, vaccines are not the only cause, just one of many.


Virtually everything is toxic if taken in extreme doses. Labeling something as a "toxin" means precisely nothing, in my opinion. The issue is whether or not the substance is harmful at the doses commonly administered.

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Studies show when a life form is under stress things can cross the blood brain barrier that otherwise can't. Children being held down and pierced with a needle are under a LOT of stress, much more so than a laboratory animal being tested for vaccine safety. But this monkey study was pretty conclusive. Read it.


I've read it and I think a large dose of skepticism is in order. First of all, there is the point that the study used monkeys and not humans. Research monkeys and humans are different species whose last common ancestor lived about 25 million years ago. You just can't say "Hey, look! It affects monkeys in this way, therefore it will most assuredly have the same effect on humans!" Research involving monkeys is extremely important for medical advancement but you must remember that they are different species that may be affected in different ways.

Secondly, I must ask: What, exactly, are the diagnostic criteria for autism in monkeys? Do they
line up feces on the bottom of their cages instead of throwing them at the researchers? Perhaps they fail to become angry and aggressive when the researcher makes eye contact? :wink:

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Watch these two videos all the way to the end. Make your OWN conclusions.


I don't think that YouTube is a good source of information about medical science. One would do much better to go to PubMed and type "vaccine" and "autism" in the search engine and read the results. If you do that, you'll find that there have been MANY studies done and nearly all of them give the same answer: Vaccines don't cause autism. (The anti-vaccine crowd seems amazingly adept at digging up the 0.000000000000000000000000000000000001% of studies that DO claim a link.)

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A Texas study showed the closer children live to a coal burning power plant the more of them are autistic.


Correlational results like this can be interesting but their ability to demonstrate causality is weak at best.

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One person in one of the support groups became autistic after getting the measles,(not the shot, the disease), but another became autistic at the age of 12 (yes 12) after getting a measles vaccination. Before then he was considered neurotypical.


I must call foul on this one too. How do we know this person was not on the spectrum before? Where is the careful documentation of this person's traits before the measles? Where are the clinical evaluations at earlier ages that demonstrate that the person was not on the spectrum before? Even if the person did "become autistic" at age 12, how do we know that the vaccine was responsible? Finally, if the measles can cause autism, as you suggest, then why wouldn't a measles vaccine tend to prevent autism?

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It may even be possible "mild" measles and other "mild" diseases from children vaccinated with live vaccines are being caught by other non-vaccinated children, especially siblings. "Mild" is not the same as dead. As was said in a recent popular movie "life finds a way."


I think you would do well to read more reliable sources about how measles vaccines are made. Quotes from Jurassic Park movies do not strike me as compelling scientific evidence. :wink: