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01 Feb 2009, 5:37 pm

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What if bahaviour that is considered Neurologically typical was found in a minority of people and Autistic traits were considerded typical? What if only 1 in 150 people were diagnosed Neurotypical? And these NT's were viewed as confusing by everyone else. Because they have social urges that are considered improper by society. And they are considered freaks because they could tell peoples intentions seemingly without indication. And they are considered unintelligent because they do not see logic. And they're thought of as dangerous and unstable due to how much more emotion they express.

Kinda like an Elcoor world (a race in Mass Effect). The Elcoor actually use words to express how there statement should be taken. Example: "Guilt. That makes me think you have done something wrong." Plus, based on what NTs are like they would adapt perfectly to the AS world, simply because there social abilities would be learned from ASDers, and they wouldn't have the social skills they have now.

*GASP* Mass Effect! I love the Elcoor. Happily: They're the only race that don't give me back chat.
Dissapointed: I wish I were an elcoor

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01 Feb 2009, 9:58 pm

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Conclusion: NTs should leave us alone and let us find our own happiness.

See, you're already talking like an Elcoor.

Nope. I'm talking like a philosophy student.

I was saying that in reference to an earlier post of mine. I enjoy philosophy, that's why I'm minoring in it.

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02 Feb 2009, 9:06 am

Plato said, "Where reason rules, everything falls into place."

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02 Feb 2009, 4:45 pm

Padium wrote:

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Conclusion: NTs should leave us alone and let us find our own happiness.

See, you're already talking like an Elcoor.

Nope. I'm talking like a philosophy student.

I was saying that in reference to an earlier post of mine. I enjoy philosophy, that's why I'm minoring in it.

Yeah, I know what you're referencing. What is this "Mass Effect"? MMORPG? And what kind of philosophy do you like?

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02 Feb 2009, 5:05 pm

Amicitia wrote:

Padium wrote:

Amicitia wrote:

Padium wrote:

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Conclusion: NTs should leave us alone and let us find our own happiness.

See, you're already talking like an Elcoor.

Nope. I'm talking like a philosophy student.

I was saying that in reference to an earlier post of mine. I enjoy philosophy, that's why I'm minoring in it.

Yeah, I know what you're referencing. What is this "Mass Effect"? MMORPG? And what kind of philosophy do you like?

Mass effect is an open single player rpg, where every choice you make effects the end result of the game. Sortof like Oblivion. As for philosophy, I just enjoy thinking deeply in general, although, I do quite enjoy the philosophy of social issues, such as morality, gender issues, etc.

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04 Feb 2009, 3:47 am

No, I think it's better off this way. Remember- NTs do a lot of stupid things, because they think with their emotions almost entirely, and well...don't really think things out. Due to that, we Aspies find a million loopholes in their thinking and planning, and wind up running the joint without them realizing it.

It's a lot of fun to be the evil Puppet Master, trust me.

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04 Feb 2009, 2:33 pm

I think it would be alot easyer for a NT to act like an aspie than an aspie to act like a NT.

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04 Feb 2009, 2:35 pm

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I think it is would be alot easyer for a NT to act like an aspie than an aspie to act like a NT.

QAnd that is because they learn behaviours more normally, and if all they had were auties to look up to, they themselves would pick up our traits as normal.

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04 Feb 2009, 3:01 pm

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It would also be hell for some of us who're on the spectrum.

It would take ages to find someone who'd not ramble on about their interest, not be asocial, not disregard personal boundaries, not freak out about loud noise, not be introverted, not be one-sided in their conversation style...

I'm only friends with people who're not any like that and I have a lot of these traits myself. I really like them too. Couldn't imagine to be very happy in a world where a introverted asocial personality style would rule.

On a side note, what about all those people with other disabilities? I'd be most curious to know all about what they think about a world ruled by the ASD neurology.

I agree. The world wouldn't necessarily be any easier if everyone was exactly like me. I'm introverted and I sometimes feel even more awkward when I'm around other people who are as introverted as I am. The fact is a lot of NT's are better at getting the conversation going than I am and I'm grateful for that.

That said I don't think introverted means asocial. That's an inaccurate perception. I like socializing, it's just that small talk bores me and I'm not good at it - trying to do it leaves me both exhausted and dissatisfied. If people are boring me and I'm not naturally feeling particularly lively it's extremely hard to fake an interest in order to appear more social. I'm not purposely trying to be a stick in the mud even if people think that. It's frustrating. I'd much rather talk about real issues, either emotional or intellectual topics. Once I get interested I start feeling more energy and it becomes easier to contribute and relate.

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04 Feb 2009, 4:13 pm

Padium wrote:

robo37 wrote:

I think it is would be alot easyer for a NT to act like an aspie than an aspie to act like a NT.

And that is because they learn behaviours more normally, and if all they had were auties to look up to, they themselves would pick up our traits as normal.

Oh. That's interesting. Can we go convert some NTs?

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04 Feb 2009, 4:18 pm

Amicitia wrote:

Padium wrote:

robo37 wrote:

I think it is would be alot easyer for a NT to act like an aspie than an aspie to act like a NT.

And that is because they learn behaviours more normally, and if all they had were auties to look up to, they themselves would pick up our traits as normal.

Oh. That's interesting. Can we go convert some NTs?

Problem is we need them more than they need us.

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04 Feb 2009, 4:29 pm

Amicitia wrote:

Padium wrote:

robo37 wrote:

I think it is would be alot easyer for a NT to act like an aspie than an aspie to act like a NT.

And that is because they learn behaviours more normally, and if all they had were auties to look up to, they themselves would pick up our traits as normal.

Oh. That's interesting. Can we go convert some NTs?

My (apparently) NT two year old son is very fond of imitating my AS 7 year old. He picks up some of his older brother's stims, but he seems to use them for a different (more NT) purpose -- to try to make a social connection to his brother.

I suspect that, if people with AS ruled the world, we would have little or no war. I have come to believe that war happens when NT in two countries come to believe that people in the other country are evil/subhuman/morally depraved/etc. People often hold these beliefs even when their intellect and education SHOULD teach them otherwise. I suppose that it's just hard for NT to overcome our automated social judgements.

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04 Feb 2009, 5:03 pm

Padium wrote:

Amicitia wrote:

Padium wrote:

robo37 wrote:

I think it is would be alot easyer for a NT to act like an aspie than an aspie to act like a NT.

And that is because they learn behaviours more normally, and if all they had were auties to look up to, they themselves would pick up our traits as normal.

Oh. That's interesting. Can we go convert some NTs?

Problem is we need them more than they need us.

Oh well...

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I suspect that, if people with AS ruled the world, we would have little or no war. I have come to believe that war happens when NT in two countries come to believe that people in the other country are evil/subhuman/morally depraved/etc. People often hold these beliefs even when their intellect and education SHOULD teach them otherwise. I suppose that it's just hard for NT to overcome our automated social judgements.

It's a paradox. NTs are wired to connect with some others and exclude other others. It's this "they're not like us" mentality that allows, or even leads to, war. I notice that NTs have a hard time hating (in the want-to-declare-war sense) people they've actually met and interacted with - but that they have no problem continuing to hate people who are similar to the people they met.

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04 Feb 2009, 5:08 pm

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Sortof like how most people cannot take a knife and slash open an animal or person dead or otherwise, simply because of the associations to that being, but have no problem hacking apart a nice juicy steak on the dinner table. We are not the mideval people we once were, we are to sensative in general to inflict serious harm intentionally on someone we have had contact with, especially if the harm is caused while the person is in our eyesight.

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04 Feb 2009, 9:26 pm

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It's a lot of fun to be the evil Puppet Master.

That's not an Aspie. That's a sociopath. Good at playing people, no compassion, no internal sense of right and wrong. Give the masses bread and circuses and they will tolerate anything. Absolutely anything. And yes, that's what we have now. Fun for the puppet masters, not for me.

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Problem is we need them more than they need us.

That's what they want you to believe.

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04 Feb 2009, 9:28 pm

Tahitiii wrote:

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Problem is we need them more than they need us.

That's what they want you to believe.

We need them because there is a lot we can't easily do without their help... Or, atleast that is my experience.

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