Accused of incoherent thoughts?
NarfMann
Pileated woodpecker

Joined: 17 Apr 2008
Age: 45
Gender: Male
Posts: 185
Location: Centennial, CO
That may be the most brilliant and insightful thing I've ever read.
the other day I compared something to AIDS. I spent so long justifying & explaing why I had done so that I cant even remember what the original conversation was about (it was completely unrelated to aids

I hate when I retell a story to my boyfriend and suddenly I don't sound so inarticulate and have the right words for it. How exhausting, we'd have to think out our thoughts before coming up with a succinct way of saying it.
I type much better than I speak. I like the backspace button.
All. the. time.
In normal conversations mainly for the following 3 reasons:
- I am a very fast thinker of my own thoughts and I have a very high processing speed
- I have tons of associations and I am impulsive and tag along with those associated thoughts
- I am several times more aware of my environment than normal people and react to what others don't notice
People have accused me of that even more when I was talking very little or not answering. Nowadays, because I'm talking so much, people seem to have an easier time to follow my train of thought. But they still complain regularly.
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The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it. Terry Pratchett
I get so incoherent that it is referred to as "word salad" but obviously it isn't all the time. Depending if I have a good day or bad day with my symptoms. it can be anywhere from 10% all the way to 30% of the day where I speak all confused like. I have even made posts on this site and others while I was confused. I call it "generalized confusion disorder" and it means you are confused all the time. When I'm confused, this is what a typical sentence would sound like, "You know the who and the wow cow now in the thing what the neat stuff fall the sky and again." I also get "thought blocking" and so does my mom (she gets it because she had a fever of 106 and lived that was a close call!). Thought blocking is when you talk and then suddenly stop in the middle of a sentence and forget to think and think. Thank God this happens in Autism and not just Evil Schizophrenia! (I've been diagnosed as having schizoaffective disorder which is evil because the doctors graduated from Evil Medical School!)
I get told all the time that my thoughts don't make sense, when to me they do. I have a very hard time explaining things, and I go into details that most people can't seem to follow. Then I also trip over my tongue a lot and probably sound like a total idiot to others. I also got called "weird" today by a work friend who has never heard me talking out loud to myself until today. She was joking with me, I believe, but I know it was a shock for her to hear my thoughts coming out verbally. I have been struggling all day with designing this 3-story house I'm working on, and I've been talking to myself like a mad man today! The more stressed out I am, the more I tend to talk to myself.
"I dont know what kind of person a kid could grow up to be, you dont know, maybe he'll become hitler & he was supposed to die, but the worst a cat can ever do is... scratch the hell out of you, no permanent mass damage to an entire world." I got more into it but I stopped when the she started screaming that I was insane or evil & just agreed when she said I was trying to get a rise out of her. I didn't know what else to say or how to explain it better so she would understand me.
Oooooh that bugs me SO much... I mean, if you're going to ask such a question, you should expect a variety of answers for a variety of different reasons. If only one answer is acceptable to you, then why ask the question?? And yes, I know people use rhetorical questions to make points in support of an argument, but seriously... consider whether or not the implied answer you believe is so obvious is in fact that way when using a different style of thinking. It is not in fact intuitively obvious that everyone on earth would prioritize a strange baby over a familiar animal. I don't consider myself to be a cold or evil person, but I also don't really get why I'm supposed to think that all humans are more valuable than anything else on earth (and moreover, that all human life has exactly the same value, because not even the people who believe that actually act like they believe it). Drives me NUTS...
So anyway, yeah, I very often find myself explaining what I was trying to say to people. I think it's due to the fact that we all basically enter a conversation assuming a huuuuge range of background information that makes the conversation possible. This information ranges from physical laws to cultural norms to linguistic rules. The problem arises from the fact that those with a very different way of looking at their world are basing their statements on assumed knowledge or belief that their listener doesn't really have and can't really even comprehend. For example, as I said above I don't see why it is supposed to be intuitively obvious that human life is inherently valuable. The vast majority of people base their view of the world in a set of cultural values that make such a thought impossible to understand, let alone come into a conversation accepting that thought as a possible premise. As a result, if I made a statement based on that particular belief, I would have to spend a hell of a lot of time explaining how I could even hold that belief in the first place before most of the participants in the conversation could think about what I'd said for its own merits. And naturally there is no point in expanding on your argument if no one even grasps the gist of it in the first place...
This is the reason why I don't tell most people my true thoughts on things. Unless it's an important situation, I either echo what the crowd is saying or say what I assume is considered the appropriate response. It's insincere, but at least people leave me alone most of the time.
Ooooh I like yoouu, you make perfect sense to me. Aspie people are so awesome, seriously.
I'm sure that was probably very clever & maybe funny, but unfortunately I didn't get it at all.
My favorite rational arguement is to histerically cry and yell "it makes sense to ME!! !!"
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