Exposing the Aspergers Scam - read it and weep!

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05 Feb 2009, 12:32 am

I think this thread should be locked. It's just someone's desperate plea for attention and to feel more self-righteous than those of us struggling from legitimate disabilitites.



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05 Feb 2009, 12:38 am

I have trouble speaking. I struggle with simple things. At first people thought I was ret*d. I have always worked hard. I am considered a hard worker. I am on a benefit. I am diagnosied with autism. Aspergers is a type of autism. It is real.

I worked hard to get to the level I am at. I think it is sad. You would mock all these peoples hard work. You mock my hard work.

Narcissist is never how I have been described. I am described as kind. I am described as caring.

I received the diligence award for my year group in high school. I managed to pass high school. I was not supposed to be able to do that. My parents were told I would never make it to high school level. I made it to high school level. Then I made it though all years of high school.

I am slowly studying towards a degree. Lots of people here do this. They study hard. They work hard. You come here and mock them. It is not right.

I have had special help and attention. It is true. Lots of speech language theripy. But I am not ashamed of it. It changed my life. It helped me more that the therapists will ever know.

I received special needs help in school. Special classes.

I live with family because I struggle. I am not ashamed of it. No one here should be ashamed of it. We struggle because we try so hard.

My therapists goal is for me to be as much independent as I can. I will work hard at this and not be ashamed when I fail. And no one else here should be ashamed. Not because of you.

Every body struggles in life. My struggles have a name. I can get some special help for them. That does not make me what you describe.



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05 Feb 2009, 12:47 am

:lol: Asspie? "Seek out outside" ? Bad grammar. These are the mistakes of a child. The troll is a child...



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05 Feb 2009, 12:47 am

Anyone else find it funny that a narcissist is calling all of us narcissists? Honestly, I have two children. I'm married. I'm going back to college. I don't see that as self-love. Actually, if I'm the narcissist you say I am, I wouldn't be married. I wouldn't be able to take care of my kids. And I'd still be living at home with mommy and daddy. Way to go!


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05 Feb 2009, 12:48 am

I don't think this person has Aspergers, more likely to be someone else distorting Aspergers.

"Aspergers is an excuse for failure."

Its not an excuse, its a personal explanation.


Infact I have not even told anyone. Even with me knowing about it, I havn't given my self excuses to fall behind on things either.
I would also refuse a government disability check.



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05 Feb 2009, 12:49 am

You necessarily assume that people AREN'T doing anything to better their situation - that they're the stereotypical 40-year olds in their parents' basements without friends or jobs or any skills whatsoever.

What about those of us who do try, and yes, actually in some ways succeed, but find it still a struggle?

What do you say to me, living independently, going to law school next year and perhaps even close to, at the same time, starting a business (one that just so happens to involve two of my special interests), while at the same time having friends who I do care about? Am I "normal" now just because I now am able to support myself and get by? I would disagree.

My successes, career-wise and social, have not made my sensory issues go away. They haven't made me able to understand people much more than being able to predict their future actions based on patterns of behavior in the past. They haven't made me grasp on more than an intellectual level why someone can be upset simply because another person is, even if the negative emotion isn't directed at them. They haven't enabled me to track and care about the things that the rest of the world feels are absolutely vital.

And yet I work on it. Not to fit in, but to be a decent human being given what I was made as and to do well in my life as I define it. I might hate someone's high-pitched shrieking of laughter, but I make myself calmly tell them to be careful about their volume level rather than lashing out and screaming at them or hitting them even though that's what I feel like doing. I might be approaching the robotic in some of my assessments of and dealings with people, but I know what pain looks and feels like enough to try and avoid inflicting harm on anyone who doesn't absolutely need a telling-off. I'll probably never understand the appeal of non-functional clothing, of sports, of physical attractiveness, of going along with trends, but for those who do, I'll treat them like anyone else I meet, I just won't probably be as close with them as I might be with someone of like mind. There are days I want to smash the world and all the things in it I don't understand to pieces, but instead I find outlets - my art, reading a book, or talking on forums like these, to name a few.

My definition of the "Aspie pride" you so deride is exactly what I have described above. The idea that we're not perfect, by social or objective standards, but we'll make it somehow, and we don't need anyone imposing upon us to do it their way. We'll do okay, or even excellent, in the end, as long as we can believe we have purpose for what we are just like any other human being does. The worst thing that people can do to others who are different, Aspie or otherwise, is to tell them that they're inherently worthless or flawed until they believe it, because then they've created a self-fulfilling prophecy. People on the spectrum can do amazing things in many fields, they just need support and help, and the right kinds thereof.



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05 Feb 2009, 12:54 am

geowestfield, here is a link to help you rid the world of the problem you speak of in your post... Good luck!


http://changingminds.org/explanations/b ... ection.htm



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05 Feb 2009, 12:55 am

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
Please lock this thread.


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05 Feb 2009, 1:00 am

Geowestfield, I am severely autistic, and I don't live off society. I am not an "Aspie," but I know from experience that those on the autism spectrum (including but not limited to Aspies) contribute much to society. I know of people with Aspergers who serve in the military, own their own business, or are involved in one of the many professions. I don't use my autism as an excuse for anything. However, there are things that regular people know from instinct that those on the autism spectrum have to learn scientifically. There are things that we do well at that those not on the autism spectrum have extreme difficulty in mastering.

One of the advantages of being autistic is the fact that I don't have to spend years in a classroom learning a profession. I can do it by reading books or using the Internet to gather my information. Most people with Aspergers can do the same in the areas of their interests. In hindsight, I can see autistic traits in many of my relatives. My grandfather would very likely be classified as having Asperger's if he were alive and was tested for it. He did not live off of society. In fact, he invented the TV remote control and was the first to come up with the idea of putting a light on a vacuum cleaner. Society and General Electric benefited greatly from his ideas.

There are physical differences between the brains of "normal" people and those on the autism spectrum. Most people on the autism spectrum have special needs, but that does not make them whiners or perpetual victims. Would you call a diabetic a loser simply because he or she needs insulin? It would be asinine if you did. Would you call someone who is blind a loser or making excuses because he or she cannot drive? If so, that would be asinine as well! How about someone who is allergic to sunlight or penicillin? You see, geowestfield, there are many people who have special needs, autistic (including those with Aspergers) people have special needs as well.
Geowestfield, you have to realize that not all people are like you and many people have needs different than yours.
You need to step out of your narrow point of view and see some of the many other types of people.

With that said, I don't think that Aspergers or any other form of autism gives people the right to steal, murder, rape, or commit any heinous crime. You have probably seen someone who claims to have Asperger's use this as an excuse, so you lump all of us on the autism spectrum as such. That is just as bigoted as saying all black people steal or sell drugs. It is as bigoted as saying that all white guys have smaller d****. Grow up, go out and meet some Aspies. I think you will be pleasantly surprised, unless you are so set in your beliefs that nothing can change your mind.


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05 Feb 2009, 1:00 am

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Please lock this thread.


I second that.



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05 Feb 2009, 1:03 am

GWF, I'm sorry that your self-loathing has pervading your sense of reason, seeking to blame the individual instead of finding a degree of compassion and understanding. You confuse blindness with having one's eyes closed... in time, you may come to understand that difference. You're welcome to your opinions, but in my opinion... you're also welcome to keep them to yourself. Intentionally inflammatory materials are not permitted here under the ToS - please be aware.


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05 Feb 2009, 1:04 am

Must be a slow day on somethingawful...



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05 Feb 2009, 1:06 am

For those who are not very happy with this person, upon a search I found nothing for "geowestfield".
However I did find [email protected]
Google it, compare this (geowestfield) poster to the language used by [email protected].



Could perhaps also mean George Westfield.



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05 Feb 2009, 1:18 am

geowestfield,
"-Prosperity without work is the fantasy of the ages.
Anonymous"


That is not anonymous.
That is a quote from Ron Paul
The actual quote is,
"Prosperity without work is a dream of the ages"


[lau broke overwide img]http://bobmccarty.files.wordpress.com/2007/03/paul-10x10-1.jpg[/img]



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05 Feb 2009, 1:21 am

This is obviously some loser looking for attention. I don't think we need to lock this thread, just mock it because it is so unintelligent. It's not the worst thing bring light to foolishness.

First of all, this isn't a real article. The poster wrote this him/herself, and hiding behind the article. Which is lame.

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Their entire lives are focused around the immediate gratification and fullfilment of their needs


Fulfillment is spelled wrong.


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In this manner, relationships with asspies are almost always tenuous, shallow, brief, and fleeting.


Aspie spelled wrong.


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In standard narcissist fashion, the aspie's self-centeredness is so great that he completely lacks the ability to consider other people's feelings and rights, or to emphasize with another party or anyone else outside himself.


emphasize?


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Like psychopaths, thugs, narcissists, and other pathological personalities


Is "thug" a pathology? Is that in the DSM IV?


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...his life course is a race to the bottom which ultimately ends in destitution, disappointment to self and family members, and productiveless failure.


productiveless? Is that a word?



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05 Feb 2009, 1:21 am

None of the Aspies in my family were told that they were not capable of anything. We all have multiple degrees, good jobs, homes and families. I know plenty of sniveling NT losers---I don't know any Aspie ones. In fact, my Aspie students are harder working, more thoughtful and more respectful than my NT students.


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