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09 Feb 2009, 8:01 pm

I'm NT and I rinse thoroughly.

I guess that person you observed assumes the soap comes off with the towel, but I've tasted enough soap from poorly rinsed objects to believe that it does not.

FYI, when trying to conserve water a person might use a wash bowl and a rinse bowl. Some soap will build up in the rinse bowl, but a realistic trade off is being made there.


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09 Feb 2009, 8:09 pm

I rinse. But when my in-laws are visiting, they try to be helpful by doing things around the house (God, I wish they wouldn't), and washing up is one of them. Not only do they NOT rinse the dishes, they don't wipe the rim of drinking glasses. As if I want my kids to get whatever cooties they picked up on their transatlantic flight.

The weird thing is, they run a bed and breakfast. You'd think they'd know how to wash dishes, but apparently not. Nothing grosser than being giving a glass with lipstick prints on it.



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09 Feb 2009, 8:17 pm

I do have some rinsing issues,especially if cooking meat,the stuff it leaves on cutting boards,etc HAS to be really scrubbed,
bleached away-I'm really careful,alternating with being a slob,if that makes sense-,but what I eat and drink from is CLEAN all the way...does not take up much of my time.


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09 Feb 2009, 8:18 pm

Yeah it's like going to a bar and getting a mouthful of glass washing disinfectant along with your shot of expensive scotch.


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09 Feb 2009, 8:23 pm

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Not rinsing dishes in hot water after washing is like getting out of a bathtub without taking a shower afterwards to get clean. It just isn't something that should be done by civilized people.



precisely.



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09 Feb 2009, 9:31 pm

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Yeah it's like going to a bar and getting a mouthful of glass washing disinfectant along with your shot of expensive scotch.


Arg, yuck... That stuff tastes so horrible, the scotch is alright, but the disinfectant is brutal...



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10 Feb 2009, 6:47 am

garyww wrote:
Not rinsing dishes in hot water after washing is like getting out of a bathtub without taking a shower afterwards to get clean. It just isn't something that should be done by civilized people.


you have a shower straight after a bath??! ! 8O

now you have me wondering what on earth you're doing in the bath to need a shower... 8O 8O 8O

i've always thought of myself as being fairly civilised by the way...

i'm guessing a lot of you are American, right? maybe American washing up liquid is more lethal or something, because most people i've come accross don't rinse, and they are all pretty civilised too :D



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10 Feb 2009, 10:48 am

Urgh, just rinse them, only takes a second.

Its like an old friend of mine will not wash his hands after he pees. I'm like "man, wash your hands will ya!" and he just says "my parents taught me not to piss on my hands" :?


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10 Feb 2009, 11:05 am

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garyww wrote:
Not rinsing dishes in hot water after washing is like getting out of a bathtub without taking a shower afterwards to get clean. It just isn't something that should be done by civilized people.


you have a shower straight after a bath??! ! 8O

now you have me wondering what on earth you're doing in the bath to need a shower... 8O 8O 8O

i've always thought of myself as being fairly civilised by the way...

i'm guessing a lot of you are American, right? maybe American washing up liquid is more lethal or something, because most people i've come accross don't rinse, and they are all pretty civilised too :D


I am well and truly Australian and this is my ablutions process when bathing:

I always have a shower after a bath. i wonder if it is related to sensory issues actually. - maybe heightened visual acuity and the feel of stuff sticking to your skin....when one has a bath, it is possible to see small bits of matter and muck floating on the skim of the water. this IS the purpose of a bath - to literally SOAK off the dirt and grime and dead skin. Hence those hideaous bath ring marks. yuck.

Given that, it seems imperitive to shower off any bath deposits that cling to you when you stand from the bath. eek. a post-bath shower is a must...

a nice clean off....



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10 Feb 2009, 11:55 am

benjimanbreeg wrote:
Urgh, just rinse them, only takes a second.

Its like an old friend of mine will not wash his hands after he pees. I'm like "man, wash your hands will ya!" and he just says "my parents taught me not to piss on my hands" :?


oh yuck, now that IS gross...i'm a girl and i always wash my hands after going for a wee...i can't understand people not doing so.

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10 Feb 2009, 12:00 pm

LightNights wrote:
benjimanbreeg wrote:
Urgh, just rinse them, only takes a second.

Its like an old friend of mine will not wash his hands after he pees. I'm like "man, wash your hands will ya!" and he just says "my parents taught me not to piss on my hands" :?


oh yuck, now that IS gross...i'm a girl and i always wash my hands after going for a wee...i can't understand people not doing so.

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I know. My Brother told me that tests were taken on a portion of bombay mix from an Indian restaurant, left for customers to pick at. Were taken. There was like 15 different samples of urine on it
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10 Feb 2009, 12:03 pm

benjimanbreeg wrote:
LightNights wrote:
benjimanbreeg wrote:
Urgh, just rinse them, only takes a second.

Its like an old friend of mine will not wash his hands after he pees. I'm like "man, wash your hands will ya!" and he just says "my parents taught me not to piss on my hands" :?


oh yuck, now that IS gross...i'm a girl and i always wash my hands after going for a wee...i can't understand people not doing so.

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I know. My Brother told me that tests were taken on a portion of bombay mix from an Indian restaurant, left for customers to pick at. Were taken. There was like 15 different samples of urine on it
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same as bowls of peanuts in pubs 8O



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10 Feb 2009, 12:11 pm

Yeah!

Just don't touch them unless they've just been put out fresh!


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10 Feb 2009, 12:26 pm

I thought I'd research the toxicity of hand soaps and wash-up liquids:

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Unlike other cleaning ranges, Earth Friendly is free of formaldehyde, a carcinogenic preservative used in many conventional cleaners and some green ones too - they're very safe: if everyone used Earth Friendly’s dishmate washing up liquid, people would not consume traces of toxic chemicals left on their crockery and cutlery

http://www.nigelsecostore.com/acatalog/ ... iquid.html

Or maybe it's just scaremongering to sell their soap. This one looks a little more objective, but I wouldn't trust it as far as I could throw it:

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In the test Dishmate worked as well as well known toxic commercial brands. On cost it is one of the least expensive of the green & ecological washing up liquids (0.005 p per mL) so it is very good value for money given its remarkable quality.

The well known brand Ecover did not do quite as well, with a couple of questionable ingredients. However it was judged to clean well and is a little cheaper than Dishmate (0.002 pence per mL)

http://sustlife.com/blog/green-living/i ... toxic.html

So I though I'd check out the safety guidelines - see if you can spot the internal contradiction (clue: there's a smiley face next to it :lol: ):

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SAFETY DATA SHEET NATURAL HAND SOAP
4. FIRST AID MEASURES (ACTION)
Skin contact: Wash immediately with plenty of soap and water. :lol:
Eye contact: Bathe the eye with running water for 15 minutes.
Ingestion: Wash out mouth with water.
Inhalation: Consult a doctor. :?

http://www.staplesdisposables.com/uploa ... d%20I2.pdf

A cynic might argue that safety data sheets are no more than a back-covering exercise.

Anyway, seriously, I don't know how safe/unsafe these things are. Obviously not immediately lethal or we'd all be dead. Personally, I'm very risk-averse and always rinse the soap off my hands and dishes, though I don't get obsessional about it (I saw a guy with OCD who rinsed stuff for hours, literally 8O ). I'm careful to avoid getting the concentrated liquid on anything, as that can be much harder to rinse off. I must confess I hate showers and don't even try to rinse the soap off my skin after a bath. Though I do tend to use additive-free soap. Frankly if there were any toxins in my bath soap, they'd already be inside me by the time I'd finished my bath - skin absorption. Mostly I just try to stick to plain, simple kinds of soaps and cleaners. I don't put much powder in the washing machine, and sometimes I don't put any in at all, yet the clothes come out OK. I'm very into safe living as long as I don't have to suffer too much for it.

Meanwhile, I have a new kettle that still stinks of new plastic after 2 weeks of heavy use. :x I've tried to de-stink it with bicarbonate and with lemon juice, but it still reeks of plastic. I'd take it back to the shop but I can't be bothered. :evil: I think I'll get a steel one next time, though I don't like them.



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10 Feb 2009, 12:29 pm

wow! 8O

lol, did you make that bit up about wash hands with soap and water? :P


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10 Feb 2009, 1:32 pm

LightNights wrote:
benjimanbreeg wrote:
Urgh, just rinse them, only takes a second.

Its like an old friend of mine will not wash his hands after he pees. I'm like "man, wash your hands will ya!" and he just says "my parents taught me not to piss on my hands" :?


oh yuck, now that IS gross...i'm a girl and i always wash my hands after going for a wee...i can't understand people not doing so.

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If I use a public restroom, hell no, those taps aand dryers are dirtier than I am... At home, I am much more likely to. Also, I look for the the toilet that I have to do minimal work to to be clean enough for me, and flushing just makes my hands that much dirtier, so no to that there. I will not do more than urnal activity in the public restrooms, but I wont use a urinal because they are so much more dirtier than a stall... At least as a guy I can stand at the stall and pee, as this eliminates almost all contact. I will not take a dump in one unless my only other choice is my pants. I am definitly not a germaphobe, but I do not like the fact of how dirty public restrooms are, this opinion got worse after having to clean them 5 days a week for mcdonalds.