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10 Feb 2009, 3:15 pm

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This might sound really stupid, but what do you mean, 'Save the world'? I know there's a lot of bad things in the world, like poverty, but I don't think Autistics or anyone/anything will make a perfect world. A perfect world is a paradox anyway.
And it's not like the world being conquered or anything.
Sorry if it's obvious, I just don't know what you mean.
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For instance, I watched a video regarding poverty in Africa where the women were pulling filthy water out of hole in the ground. My first thought was 'why doesn't someone teach them how to set up plastic sheeting in a funnel shape so the water condenses?' Obviously we can't 'save the world', but we can do something to help!!


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10 Feb 2009, 3:20 pm

nope your all wrong its because we have super powers :lol:



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10 Feb 2009, 5:13 pm

What we could do, and should do, are not the same.

From the aspie who tied a rock on a stick on we have been making it better and worse.

That lead to over hunting, so they ate each other, starting with the aspies.

Some aspie grows grain, saves the world, and sends the population numbers way up.

This develops a new economy, war and slavery. Aspies are not the slave masters.

There are two tracks here, without our technology our enemies would not survive.

Bailing out the world is like a bad bank, it just continues to do damage. Failure is part of the system.

I like the Atlas Shrugged Model, pull out, mine the world for resources, keep development a secret, let the population crash, and in a hundred years be firmly in control.

The current 6 billion are going to die. If we help there will be 20 billion to die, and live with less, and more suffering. If we don't help, there will only be a few hundred million suffering.

The path to the least suffering and death is clear, we only need to do 100 years of research before letting out our new thoughts.

Tesla got most of the basic computer patents 105 years ago. If he had only kept it a Trade Secret.

If AC, computers, Tesla writes of an Internet, were first tested by a group of innovaters, it would seem magic to the rest.

It is our role to reduce human suffering, and create a better future.



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10 Feb 2009, 5:51 pm

the topic is limiting the use of autistic [which is a description for those- spectrum wide] to just one group [aspies],people elsewhere on the spectrum have done good things for the world from small things to big things and the same with NTs,no one group of people would save the world if it ever comes to that,there is a word used for this,but cannot remember it right now.


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10 Feb 2009, 6:13 pm

KingdomOfRats wrote:
the topic is limiting the use of autistic [which is a description for those- spectrum wide] to just one group [aspies],people elsewhere on the spectrum have done good things for the world from small things to big things and the same with NTs,no one group of people would save the world if it ever comes to that,there is a word used for this,but cannot remember it right now.


Why couldn't I have thought of those words, perfect repsonse to the thread, and probably the best one yet. :D



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10 Feb 2009, 6:29 pm

Padium wrote:
KingdomOfRats wrote:
the topic is limiting the use of autistic [which is a description for those- spectrum wide] to just one group [aspies],people elsewhere on the spectrum have done good things for the world from small things to big things and the same with NTs,no one group of people would save the world if it ever comes to that,there is a word used for this,but cannot remember it right now.


Why couldn't I have thought of those words, perfect repsonse to the thread, and probably the best one yet. :D

Thanks Padium,
thats a first given have had night meds. :cat:


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10 Feb 2009, 7:53 pm

KingdomOfRats wrote:
the topic is limiting the use of autistic [which is a description for those- spectrum wide] to just one group [aspies],people elsewhere on the spectrum have done good things for the world from small things to big things and the same with NTs,no one group of people would save the world if it ever comes to that,there is a word used for this,but cannot remember it right now.
Hmm... Interdependence?

It does take all sorts to make a world; and that world needs autistic people. (Not just Aspies. Especially since the visual-spatial skills that are more common with classic autistics tend to be low in most Aspies, who are more logic/word/fact/idea oriented.)

I guess the OP just said "Aspies" because a lot of us here are diagnosed that way; but a lot of the people who've made big contributions to the world (and small ones, too) would probably be diagnosed with Kanner's type nowadays. Einstein, for example, was a late talker--and used a lot of visualization to figure out his theories. Does that say autie to anybody else?

Anyway, big contributions and small ones... yeah. My mom is Aspie and she is an OT who helps the elderly (she also used to work with students) with taking care of themselves better. And my dad was a computer scientist whom I'm pretty sure was classic autistic, who helped figure out how to make voice recognition technology work. I'm somewhere in between, mostly Aspie, and diagnosed AS, because of my logic/fact/word/idea sort of thinking, and I've done some little things already at only 25--volunteer work, mostly; just things that needed to be done.

"Save the world"? Hmm... well, we do tend not to think the way everyone else does. That's the same of any group that's socially isolated, and it helps with innovation and providing a bit of a balance to mob mentality. There's things we're good at that most people aren't. We've got a place in this world, an essential one; and it's just stupid to listen to people who say, "You're disabled, poor you, wouldn't the world be a better place if you were normal?" because it just plain isn't true. Without us, there'd be a part missing. That's the only time I'll use a puzzle-piece metaphor... because even the funniest-shaped puzzle pieces fit perfectly into the larger picture...


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10 Feb 2009, 8:01 pm

I will make it my priority to destroy the world.



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11 Feb 2009, 2:26 am

answer: smash all forms of social control and sarcastic FAIL!


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