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14 Feb 2009, 6:46 am

I've been thinking the same thing- spectrumers seem to be much more considerate of the various inhabitants of this planet (i.e. animals). we seem to get along better with the local creatures.

comparing to the number of all living beings the number on homo sapiens is very, very small.

so there's this handful of NT homo sapiens who don't care about anyone else on this planet, who destroy and exploit it, and then there's an even smaller handful of people who in some way speak the local language better and get along better with the majority of Earthlings.

this is our planet.


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14 Feb 2009, 8:02 am

Life was simpler 100 years ago. The need to fit in socially wasn't as great. Few (if any) of the things that overload our sensory system existed then.


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14 Feb 2009, 8:13 am

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Life was simpler 100 years ago. The need to fit in socially wasn't as great. Few (if any) of the things that overload our sensory system existed then.


So, you are saying raising an autisitc was easier when noone knew what autism was?



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14 Feb 2009, 8:36 am

To my parents who raised me when autism is still a relatively unknown term, yes, they are able to find alternative methods to treat me and alternative labels to brand me. Autism always has a stereotype associated with it.



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14 Feb 2009, 9:44 am

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i am sure there is no one else in my whole life i saw who is like me.


Not only that, but there is no one else in my whole life who saw someone like me.

We're a lot less and far between than Gays.


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14 Feb 2009, 11:26 am

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I think that the Wrong Planet website is a place filled with wonderfully diverse and interesting people, good conversations, and valuable resources. Wrong Planet for me is a place where we Aspies can be free to be ourselves, which is quite unlike that other part of planet "Earth" where being ourselves is considered as being one of the worst things we can be.
Exactly! and this is exactly why I think 24,514 aspies (the current number of WP members) can't be *wrong*... 24,514 aspies must be *right* :)


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14 Feb 2009, 11:30 am

Greentea wrote:
b9 wrote:
i am sure there is no one else in my whole life i saw who is like me.


Not only that, but there is no one else in my whole life who saw someone like me.

We're a lot less and far between than Gays.


Statisticly, gays are about 1/1000 according to my highschool religion teacher in grade 10. This number could be backed up with the fact that in a school of 2000, there were 3 people with alternate sexual preference. all of which were bi.

Edit: Autistics are though to be about 4-6/1000



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14 Feb 2009, 11:37 am

I know what you're saying, but I think the reason is because if you found 100 autistic people, there'd be about 9,900 people who aren't autistic. Sadly, even though there are many autistic people, we still are a "minority."


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14 Feb 2009, 11:37 am

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In the same way the words autism and aspergers, even when shortened to the "affectionate" diminutives "aspie" and "autie", remain medical terms, invented to describe "disorder/disease" ( if not perversion ), and this is why I like the name Wrong Planet, because unlike Aspie Village, Autscape, Aspergia, Aspies for Freedom, etc, it is not based on any word invented by the medical establishment to separate/isolate/"dissect" a difference.
Many autistics share your view - not liking the words "autism/asperger" (and their derivatives) because they were invented by the medical establishment. In my opinion, what matters is how the popular media depicts these terms. If we reclaim the terms "autism/asperger" (and their derivatives) to ourselves, then we could influence the popular media into depicting them as *we* want them to be depicted. After all, there are many more autistics (from all across the autism spectrum) than there are autism researchers.

It is exactly like what happened to the word 'queer' - the queer community reclaimed it to itself and cast new meanings into it.


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14 Feb 2009, 11:40 am

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In the same way the words autism and aspergers, even when shortened to the "affectionate" diminutives "aspie" and "autie", remain medical terms, invented to describe "disorder/disease" ( if not perversion ), and this is why I like the name Wrong Planet, because unlike Aspie Village, Autscape, Aspergia, Aspies for Freedom, etc, it is not based on any word invented by the medical establishment to separate/isolate/"dissect" a difference.
Many autistics share your view - not liking the words "autism/asperger" (and their derivatives) because they were invented by the medical establishment. In my opinion, what matters is how the popular media depicts these terms. If we reclaim the terms "autism/asperger" (and their derivatives) to ourselves, then we could influence the popular media into depicting them as *we* want them to be depicted. After all, there are many more autistics (from all across the autism spectrum) than there are autism researchers.

It is exactly like what happened to the word 'queer' - the queer community reclaimed it to itself and cast new meanings into it.


I like your thinking. Now let's see this happen.



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14 Feb 2009, 12:53 pm

Righting a Wrong topic

I think the planet Earth is wrong for those on the Autism Spectrum, and this is why I think Alex chose the name.

But has anyone asked Alex exactly why he named this site that?


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14 Feb 2009, 12:59 pm

Padium wrote:
I like your thinking. Now let's see this happen.
It is already happening. It has been reported about in numerous newspaper articles. The article I liked the most was New York Magazine's "The New Wave of Autism Rights Activists": http://nymag.com/news/features/47225/


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14 Feb 2009, 1:06 pm

Padium wrote:
Maditude wrote:
Life was simpler 100 years ago. The need to fit in socially wasn't as great. Few (if any) of the things that overload our sensory system existed then.


So, you are saying raising an autisitc was easier when noone knew what autism was?


Partially. I am saying that there is no signs of Autism among the Amish because nothing in their lifestyle triggers autism triggers. They don't place a high emphasis on social skills like contemporary society does. They lack many of the things Aspies and Auties find fascinating. We would stand out less in an Amish society.


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14 Feb 2009, 1:08 pm

KenG wrote:
It is exactly like what happened to the word 'queer' - the queer community reclaimed it to itself and cast new meanings into it.

Well, no, because the word queer was not invented by the medical establishment, ( any more than the words wrong planet ), but was simply a word being increasingly commonly used "against"/to express negative attitudes towards gay/trans/bi people.

The queer community have in fact very clearly not reclaimed the words homosexual and lesbian, which were invented by the medical establishment.

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14 Feb 2009, 1:25 pm

I think the term "Wrong Planet" comes from the fact that a lot of us Aspies or auties feel like we're on the wrong planet. For the most part, NTs made thw world what it is today. They basically made it not okay for us aspies to be ourselves, whether it be taking things too literally, stimming, being bad at sports or handwriting, being hypersensitive to certain things and yelling when our sensory symstems are overloaded... These are all things we on the spectrum have to be able to do because it's part of who we are. But, here on Earth, it is not okay if we do these things.



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14 Feb 2009, 1:50 pm

The reason why I brought up the Amish is because the pro-vaccine crowd used the fact that there is no known autism cases in Amish communities and the Amish don't immunize their children.


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