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While reading, do you......
speak aloud? 7%  7%  [ 5 ]
move your lips like you are speaking? 10%  10%  [ 7 ]
move your tongue, mouth or vocal cords? 10%  10%  [ 7 ]
do a combination of these? (please specify) 20%  20%  [ 14 ]
not subvocalize? 52%  52%  [ 36 ]
Total votes : 69

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24 Feb 2009, 4:21 pm

Morgana wrote:
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I read "aloud" inside my head. I don't know if this has a word.


That´s a good way of describing it; that´s what I do too.

I do notice though, that if I´m having a particular difficulty understanding a certain passage, I start to mouth the words, or even to whisper them. This seems to help me a lot with comprehension....not sure why.

Ditto.


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24 Feb 2009, 5:10 pm

Only in certain circumstances. I'll subvocalize or read aloud when I'm not focusing or not understanding what I'm reading; sometimes when I read poetry; often when I read in a foreign language. Also, if a line sounds particularly pleasing inside my head, I might feel compelled to say it. Other than that I read silently.



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24 Feb 2009, 5:57 pm

I'm an NT mom of an ADHD and an aspie child and I often mumble when I'm reading, especially if I'm trying to concentrate. But I especially read/write aloud as I'm writing. It's quite embarassing at work. LOL.



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24 Feb 2009, 9:31 pm

I move my mouth when I'm reading something, and my vocal cords sometimes as well. (I did it reading this post :oops: ) I find that if I don't move my lips, I can't concentrate. Also, I don't enjoy reading outloud and I cannot understand anything someone says if they're reading to me. I HAVE to read it myself. This is not negotiable.



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25 Feb 2009, 10:41 am

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I'm curious to know if there is any relationship between ASD's and Subvocalization, which is the process of internal speech made when reading words. See the link for more information:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subvocalization

When I read, I move my lips, as well as mouth and vocal cords, and sometimes nearly even speak aloud. I notice that I comprehend far less of what I read when I try to not subvocalize, like when I am in a public place and do not want to attract attention.

I'm not saying that subvocalization is a trait of autism, or that all autistics subvocalize...
It's just an isolated neurological trait that I thought would be worth our investigation.

Is this a noticeable thing for you? Do you find that subvocalization helps you with reading?

Thanks for your replies!


I took a Speed Reading course and that cured by sub-vocalizations. I read one line at a time. One cannot subvocalize a line of words.

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25 Feb 2009, 12:40 pm

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I took a Speed Reading course and that cured by sub-vocalizations.

That's interesting. I've heard that some speed-reading advocates take a negative stance on subvocalization; that it drags on mental processing and slows everything down. However, I'm not interested in "curing" this trait. I don't see anything wrong with it.
As I said, I find that I comprehend a great deal more of what I read when I subvocalize.

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One cannot subvocalize a line of words.

Uh, well, to be totally honest with you, I just automatically subvocalized that single line when I first read it...


Thank you for your perspective. :)


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25 Feb 2009, 5:11 pm

I think I would have trouble with speed reading because I like to relish and enjoy what I´m reading.


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25 Feb 2009, 5:15 pm

I kinda quietly talk to myself. I do this a lot especially when concentrating.


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26 Feb 2009, 4:12 pm

Thank you everyone for your responses.
I must admit, I am amazed by the overwhelming predominance towards NOT subvocalizing, as indicated by the poll votes.
But my amazement is, of course, in relation to the fact that I very strongly subvocalize.
Acoustics and everything about it has always been a fascination of mine.

You've given me insight into the nature of this trait, and some basic evidence against it having anything at all to do with Autism, as I orginally thought it might. I'm always trying to understand the mind. Thanks guys 8)


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26 Feb 2009, 10:09 pm

Definitely not. There is no way I could read aloud as fast as I read (or speak as fast as I type).



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27 Feb 2009, 1:51 am

I subvocalize more while thinking than I do while reading. I sometimes move my tongue, nod, or shake my head when I'm thinking really hard about something or trying to solve a problem. I also do it in social settings when I've given up on participating. I'll site there nodding and moving my mouth to no one in particular. My family thinks it's weird. I don't know if it makes me look insane. :oops:



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27 Feb 2009, 2:21 am

i subvocalise a bit while reading.
I also talk to myself out loud throughout the day and have detailed preparatory conversations with myself and the imaginary "other" person. i also do it a bit when out and about and i do it in the car whilst driving and my son tells me i am one of the freaky people.



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27 Feb 2009, 4:52 pm

Acacia wrote:

You've given me insight into the nature of this trait, and some basic evidence against it having anything at all to do with Autism, as I orginally thought it might.


As I recall, Tony Attwood wrote that it is very common for people with AS to talk aloud to themselves, or to read aloud....so I think it may have something to do with autism after all. It´s just that not everyone has the same presentation of traits.


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27 Feb 2009, 4:55 pm

I read out loud when I feel like practicing. I read out loud in my mind most times.

^ millie, I do the same thing when I recite what I'm going to say to an imaginary person. Or repeat what I have said to someone to make sure it sounded OK.



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27 Feb 2009, 5:48 pm

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I thought everyone did this. Perhaps it is related to synethesia, or has soem sort of technical name that I am not aware of. :chin:

I thought that too, but now I come to think about it, I'm not so sure. I think most probably a "spoken voice" is heard when reading, but I suspect it follows interpretation, it isn't the interpretation itself. Especially as we can work off recognising the whole word, instead of spelling it out every time. Heaven knows how reading in non-alphabetic scripts compares, or people who are deaf from birth, it's heading into Sapir-Whorf territory, but as a rough comparison, we might instantly recognise the Golden Arches without internally vocalising "McDonalds"... I dunno.


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03 Mar 2009, 3:23 pm

Hmm... I think I may be the other way on this entirely. I suspect that I have some form of hyperlexia, as my ability to understand and to use the written word outstrips my ability with spoken words by far. I tend to trip over myself and botch up everything I'm trying to say when I speak; saying things unclearly or saying the wrong things altogether. The best I can describe it is actually misrepresenting the written sentence playing in my head. It's as if something literally gets lost in translation, a problem that I do not seem to have in the least when writing. In order to clearly get my points across, I usually need something like 5-10 seconds to visually construct my sentences in my head first and sort through the cobwebs of trying to translate it into oral format, and by then the conversation has already moved on and it's too late to provide input.

When I read, usually I don't hear the words at all, even in my head (unless it's spoken dialogue). Rather, a visual representation of the scene appears in my mind and it gets to the point where I barely recognize the words at all. It's as if I'm feeding the words on the page through a projecting reel that simply plays out a movie of the book in my head. I believe it has something to do with the visual nature of the experience. Processing sounds, both inwardly and outwardly, use up far more of my brainpower than visual tasks, writing vs. speaking in particular, thus leaving me with a lot more ability to think about what I'm going to say.

As an example: I can't play the guitar worth a damn at all (Believe me, I've tried to learn) but there are songs I can 100% on expert on Rockband and Guitar hero.

When imagining single words or phrases in my head, the image of the written word/phrase itself flashes in my mind rather than hearing it aloud. I don't know if anybody else is like this, but trying to read aloud or consciously force myself to experience auditory imagery instead of visual not only cuts the speed at which I can read by about half, it does about the same for my comprehension.


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