*If You Could Conjure up the Perfect Aspie/AS Gathering ...*

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Which one of these gatherings would you prefer?
The Blues Brothers 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
The Name of the Rose 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
The Big Sleep/Peter's Friends 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
The Full Monty 6%  6%  [ 1 ]
Animal House 13%  13%  [ 2 ]
Four Weddings and a Funeral 13%  13%  [ 2 ]
The Thing/Prince of Darkness/Alien 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
The Rocky Horror Picture Show 19%  19%  [ 3 ]
The Breakfast Club 19%  19%  [ 3 ]
Twelve Angry Men 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Bagdad Café 13%  13%  [ 2 ]
Other, please expand in thread ! 19%  19%  [ 3 ]
Total votes : 16

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27 Feb 2009, 7:23 am

i play about 13 instruments, though not all at once XD



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27 Feb 2009, 8:01 am

ouinon wrote:
Xanderbeanz wrote:
Because i'm such an egomaniac it would be nice if i could play some music for teh aspies visiting...lol x
What do you play? ... ... edit: guitar I see according to your profile. Wow, all these musicians on WP. It would make a great live music event!! :D
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I play about 13 instruments, though not all at once XD
:lol:
I am in awe/deeply impressed. I love listening to people playing music. It's a huge and wonderful gift. One of my all-time, and usually unforgettable, favourite experiences is sitting and listening to people making music because they are passionate about it. It tends to make me cry a bit too. :oops:

I think the perfect AS gathering would definitely have to include aspie/autie musicians getting creative! :D

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27 Feb 2009, 3:33 pm

To make it a perfect AS gathering I think we'd need a reason for being there too, ( other than a nice leisurely party anyway :wink: ); so that we don't find ourselves thinking that we might aswell be at any old musical social event/conference/opening night of an exhibition/whatever.

Just being with other AS doesn't seem to inspire excitement; the reverse if anything. Which isn't surprising considering how many of us, ( going by WP threads, esp. in The Haven ), have learned to see ourselves as the most boring/difficult/unwanted person in the room.

I know, ... a three-day fruit/salad fast!! ! :wink: :lol: to rediscover the joyful enthusiastic child inside them again! Everybody would have to commit to a day of certain restrictions already before going, so that by the end of the weekend people would have had a chance to feel it, the effect of a liberated gut.

Free the Ent! ( Enteric Nervous System ), and become the AS you were meant to be before constant immune activity put a stop to it! :wink:

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Anyone else got any ideas for the perfect AS gathering? 8)

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28 Feb 2009, 8:37 am

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Anyone else got any ideas for the perfect AS gathering? 8)

Ligea Seroua on the thread about "venue for the London meet" thinks that with all the musicians and artists on WP an "AS Arts Weekend" would be a good idea, and give structure to the event.

Imagine a gathering with WP/AS people's paintings and photos and sculptures everywhere, and music played throughout the day, and other performances. And others who love cooking/are obsessed by diet, :wink: , providing lots of delicious and different kinds of food, ( Ligea already mentioned her "hellishly good" cake ! ).

:flower: :afro: :flower:

Dream ... ... ... :D

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28 Feb 2009, 1:44 pm

I've already posted this in "Survey about a WrongPlanet gathering", but this post fits the topic so well, I thought I'd post it again. Anyway, the schedule for a perfect (in my opinion, at least) gathering could go something like this. Parti

Friday:
3:00pm - 6:00pm: Participants arrive, registration, getting settled in, free time.
6:00pm - 6:30pm: Welcoming speech
6:30pm - 8:00pm: Introductions, team-building activities, hors d'oeuvres, and open bar
8:00pm - 9:00pm: Late dinner
9:00pm - 11:00pm: Organized discussions about issues relevant to aspies
11:00pm: First days ends

Saturday:
9:00am - 10:00am: Breakfast
10:00am - 11:30am: Speeches by leaders of pro-aspie organizations
11:30am - 1:00pm: Sports games led instructors trained in aspie needs
1:00pm - 1:30pm: Free time
1:30pm - 2:30pm: Lunch
2:30pm - 4:30pm: Watching Rain Man or Mercury Rising, per participant's choice
4:30pm - 5:00pm: Discussions of the movies watched
5:00pm - 7:30pm: Team-building activities, informal discussions about aspie issues
7:30pm - 8:30pm: Dinner
8:30pm - 9:30pm for men: Presentations teaching how to find and keep romantic relationships
8:30pm - 9:30pm for women: Presentations teaching how to be approachable and desirable
9:30pm - 11:00pm: Free time
11:00pm - 12:00am: Late-night hors d'oeuvres
12:00am - 12:30am: Motivational speech by a professional educated in aspie issues
12:30am - 2:00am: Late-night party with games led by organizers, open bar available
2:00am: Second day ends

Sunday:
9:00am - 10:00am: Breakfast
10:00am - 11:30pm: Final discussions about aspie issues, participants give evaluations
11:30am - 12:00pm: Closing speech
12:00pm: WrongPlanet gathering ends



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28 Feb 2009, 2:44 pm

my perfect ASD gathering would be about an hour or two in duration. i know i would hit burnout by then.

I went to go to a 12step convention yesterday. i stayed for a number of hours - way too long - and i stayed because i get so overwhelmed i cannot make a decision to eat or even get a coffee or to lget in my car and eave. complete overwhelm and brain freeze. yuck. paying for it today.



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28 Feb 2009, 3:05 pm

millie wrote:
my perfect ASD gathering would be about an hour or two in duration. i know i would hit burnout by then.

That's why a residential gathering where we all had our own rooms, and where there were big grounds/parkland/countryside nearby to wander around in, would be perfect, because we could have downtime whenever we wanted, :D rather than a day meet-up where you're pretty much stuck with people or have to leave.

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28 Feb 2009, 3:44 pm

Aspie1 wrote:
I've already posted this in "Survey about a WrongPlanet gathering", but this post fits the topic so well, I thought I'd post it again. Anyway, the schedule for a perfect (in my opinion, at least) gathering could go something like this. Parti

Friday:
3:00pm - 6:00pm: Participants arrive, registration, getting settled in, free time.
6:00pm - 6:30pm: Welcoming speech
6:30pm - 8:00pm: Introductions, team-building activities, hors d'oeuvres, and open bar
8:00pm - 9:00pm: Late dinner
9:00pm - 11:00pm: Organized discussions about issues relevant to aspies
11:00pm: First days ends

Saturday:
9:00am - 10:00am: Breakfast
10:00am - 11:30am: Speeches by leaders of pro-aspie organizations
11:30am - 1:00pm: Sports games led instructors trained in aspie needs
1:00pm - 1:30pm: Free time
1:30pm - 2:30pm: Lunch
2:30pm - 4:30pm: Watching Rain Man or Mercury Rising, per participant's choice
4:30pm - 5:00pm: Discussions of the movies watched
5:00pm - 7:30pm: Team-building activities, informal discussions about aspie issues
7:30pm - 8:30pm: Dinner
8:30pm - 9:30pm for men: Presentations teaching how to find and keep romantic relationships
8:30pm - 9:30pm for women: Presentations teaching how to be approachable and desirable
9:30pm - 11:00pm: Free time
11:00pm - 12:00am: Late-night hors d'oeuvres
12:00am - 12:30am: Motivational speech by a professional educated in aspie issues
12:30am - 2:00am: Late-night party with games led by organizers, open bar available
2:00am: Second day ends

Sunday:
9:00am - 10:00am: Breakfast
10:00am - 11:30pm: Final discussions about aspie issues, participants give evaluations
11:30am - 12:00pm: Closing speech
12:00pm: WrongPlanet gathering ends



You gotta be kidding. That is too much structure. I wouldn't spend that much time with anyone especially not other Aspies. Having gone to AS meetings none of the AS adults are able to handle even 1.5 hours today. Breakfast at 9am is too late. Eating at 8pm is way too late. Lunch at 1:30pm is also inappropriate when planning for a group. If you're a night owl the schedule might work for you but health experts say people do not secrete the appropriate brain chemicals if they go to sleep after 10pm and you shouldn't eat meals after 5pm. Plus when you plan for a group you are suppose to use the typical daily schedule such as breakfast at 8 lunch at noon where people are feed at normal 4 hour intervals and not subjected to someone else's unhealthy nightowl hours. Your Saturday schedule leaves only 7 hours for people to sleep and take a shower. The schedule is not healthy nor realistic. If I was subjected to that schedule I would view it as punishment like a short imprisonment.



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28 Feb 2009, 4:08 pm

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You gotta be kidding. That is too much structure. I wouldn't spend that much time with anyone especially not other Aspies. Having gone to AS meetings none of the AS adults are able to handle even 1.5 hours today. Breakfast at 9am is too late. Eating at 8pm is way too late. Lunch at 1:30pm is also inappropriate when planning for a group. If you're a night owl the schedule might work for you but health experts say people do not secrete the appropriate brain chemicals if they go to sleep after 10pm and you shouldn't eat meals after 5pm. Plus when you plan for a group you are suppose to use the typical daily schedule such as breakfast at 8 lunch at noon where people are feed at normal 4 hour intervals and not subjected to someone else's unhealthy nightowl hours. Your Saturday schedule leaves only 7 hours for people to sleep and take a shower. The schedule is not healthy nor realistic. If I was subjected to that schedule I would view it as punishment like a short imprisonment.

Well, I was at a three-day Jewish youth gathering, and it had a schedule a lot like that. Obviously, it was dedicated to Jewish culture and religion instead of AS, but the hours were quite similar to the ones I described. And I liked the schedule very much. Sure, everyone was tired in the morning, but ultimately, people weren't fazed by it, and in some way, it even added to the atmosphere. It's true that people at the event were NTs, but I was able to get into their ways of dong things, and had one of the best weekends in a long time. Also, a lot of aspies are night owls who can't fall asleep early, so late-night activities will enable them to get tired enough to fall asleep quickly. If that's still an issue, they can simply choose not to participate in activities after 10:00pm.



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09 Mar 2009, 11:28 am

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Another thing I think would be really wonderful/inspiring, is if everybody who went to a big gathering like that was also involved in organising/facilitating it, ( had a role of some kind, however apparently "small ). The reason why I think this is because of some Personal Development courses I went on several years ago.

After the first weekend course you can volunteer to "work" on the teams which organise the events, and it's not some messy, unofficial heirarchical pecking-order sort of thing, but highly structured so that you know exactly what you're doing, have support from the rest of the team, and really feel useful, valued, important.

Even holding the mikes in the big hall was important. Even running notes between teams mattered. And everything was written down, on printed handouts, so you could consult it to know when which people were doing what and where. It meant there were meals cooked, resources always there when required, feedback, support/advice when needed, everything was covered.

And the "high" was amazing. Because of the careful and comprehensive structure it was possible to work with people you knew very little or not at all, and feel close to them because of the commitment we all made at the beginning to be "clear" with each other, and ourselves, to drop out if/when we had to, but not to pretend we were feeling ok when we weren't.

Overload and downtime-needs were specifically taken into account. When you started to feel freaked out/overwhelmed you told your sub-team, and took time off, either to talk it through with someone on the support/listening sub-team, or on your own.

It was intense, uplifting. Half of the enjoyment was that the whole structure was created and maintained by the team. And we managed to do that because overload/overwhelm was acknowledged, not suppressed. We were encouraged to be honest/direct with each other.

I "worked" on 4 teams over about a year, ( with between 40 and 75 people ), because it was such a wonderful experience.

Maybe the glow of participating in something structured, achieving something concrete, would be part of a perfect AS gathering. ( a bit like "The Blues Brothers", or "The Full Monty", but a tad more organised ! !! :wink: )

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It could be done through the principles of scientific management by Frederick Taylor. http://www.eldritchpress.org/fwt/ti.html

If everyone looks at this link, ouinon, the same things we wanted in the workplace and on a team Taylor wanted.