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01 Mar 2009, 1:55 pm

Aspie? Doubtful. Shaman? Yes.



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01 Mar 2009, 2:12 pm

If he was bipolar and grandiose, he could easily have had followers, even as an aspie. I've seen "aspie-like gurus" in my life who are probably bipolar and aspie.

Jesus was a very deep thinker and he taught a lot in metaphor. That's something to ponder.

Of course, if Jesus really was the son of God, and he wasn't being grandiose, he probably wouldn't be an aspie.

I don't know.


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01 Mar 2009, 2:16 pm

history_of_psychiatry wrote:
Sounds more like a schizophrenic with delusions of grandiour.
Thirded :) Although probably not schizophrenic.....



If he existed at all......... :?:



Please don't flame me. :)



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01 Mar 2009, 2:18 pm

I don't think Jesus was an aspie or an NT I think he was something completely different something so rare that it only happened one time so far.


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01 Mar 2009, 4:04 pm

Greentea wrote:
he had meltdowns.
Other than the one with the money changers, when? And can you call it a "meltdown" when it's justified? I wish someone would do that with the money changers in Washington.


There’s no way to get a clue about the personality of Jesus. Except that he was mysterious.

(1) He left us NOTHING in writing
(2) With the possible (alleged) exception of Mark, we have heard nothing from anyone who claimed to actually know him.
(3) While he had some cool principles, nothing he said was practical or applicable to the masses in world at the time. You can’t really pin him down. And no one element was new. He even said that “Love your neighbor” was the main principle behind the Law of Moses.

Moses, on the other hand, was an original. He did it alone. We can see how his mind worked And he wrote it down.

His basic idea was to create a fair system via objective rules that applied to everyone equally, rather than letting privileged people take it all. He tried to legislate morality, and did an amazing job of it. It’s a worthy goal and we’re still working on it. Most people today still don’t really get the concept.

He had some heavy principles, but he didn’t expect the little people to grasp them. So he spelled them out, in excruciating detail. Can you imagine the kind of mind that could compose a list like that? Lists and lists of rules covering every imaginable interaction. And he did it without a laptop. A kind of Stonehenge of the mind.

He invented justice. He found a compromise, half-way between pure savagery and “turn the other cheek.” The eye-for-an-eye rule might sound barbaric, but you need to consider who he was talking to. From the point of view of the typical savage – if you look at me cross-eyed, I’ll have to kill your whole family and curse your descendants for eternity. (And if you point out the contradiction in that statement, I’ll have to kill you again.) Moses told the savage to chill out and to settle for just getting even.

Like I said, Jesus gave us nothing first-hand or even second-hand to work with. We can never really know much about his personality. He was “all things to all men.” He is whatever you want him to be.

How often do people put words in your mouth, or project their motives and intentions onto you?



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01 Mar 2009, 4:15 pm

Isthisreal wrote:



If he existed at all......... :?:



Please don't flame me. :)



I am pretty sure he existed but he was one of many because things were rougher back then. Since he was one of many, it's doubtful he can be called schizophrenic. I think this one figure can symbolize both many persons and ideas and is an allegory.



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01 Mar 2009, 4:27 pm

no it was a crazy guy that mostlikely never existed...



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01 Mar 2009, 4:27 pm

no it was a crazy guy that mostlikely never existed...



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01 Mar 2009, 5:00 pm

BS, I bet jesus isn't even real
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01 Mar 2009, 5:24 pm

philosopherBoi wrote:
I don't think Jesus was an aspie or an NT I think he was something completely different something so rare that it only happened one time so far.
I agree.

And a lot of the stuff thats in the Bible has archeological evidence for it. Otherwise archeologists digging in the Middle East wouldn't be using it as a guide in some of their digs.


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01 Mar 2009, 5:57 pm

I think the idea of Jesus is based on historical figures but his story might be a mix of several people and their experiences. During his time people were being crucified left and right. The Romans crucified lots of slaves after a failed revolt and left the crosses on the Appian way as examples. This must have left a profound impression on anyone who wasn't a citizen of Rome and subject to this particular penality. Scary stuff.



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02 Mar 2009, 1:20 am

Metalwolf wrote:
And a lot of the stuff thats in the Bible has archeological evidence for it. Otherwise archeologists digging in the Middle East wouldn't be using it as a guide in some of their digs.


This is what I've been trying to say all along this thread. The existance of Yehoshua (Jesus) is proven. Part of the story is not true, it was invented along History for different reasons/purposes (eg: the real Via Dolorosa is NOT where the tourists and pilgrims are told it is) but a lot is true, if even Israelis say so. He was friends with the Essenes (a group of people who created their own version of an Aspie community, north of the Dead Sea, to escape what we would now call the NT society) and the Essenes wrote about him, as a person. You can see that in the Dead Sea scrolls.


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03 Mar 2009, 11:32 am

(offtopic) Wow, i swear to god i didn't made 2 posts after eachother, back when i posted it it was one post by matter of fact!!



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03 Mar 2009, 11:48 am

Nah, I don't think so. He obviously had no social problems and didn't seem to have special interests or other aspie symptoms.


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03 Mar 2009, 12:20 pm

yes, I think he was. we've had threads about this before.

he says 'if the world hates you, remember that before it hated you it hated me' or something like that. keeps me going. all that 'ye are not of this world' stuff is good for me.



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03 Mar 2009, 1:48 pm

Postperson wrote:
he says 'if the world hates you, remember that before it hated you it hated me'.


That's what's so interesting about it. Why does the world hate? What is it inside humans that makes them need to hate others? Hate on a large scale, not petty silly, trivial, nitpicking but real hate. What makes people do the things they do?