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mitharatowen
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03 Mar 2009, 5:44 pm

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Sometimes it's unintentional. People have made posts here in the past and people would get upset by it but that member didn't mean to start a fight or a drama or get people all wound up so I dunno if that would still be considered trolling.

Imo, I don't think it can be called 'trolling' if it is unintentional.

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I wonder if it's considered trolling to pick a fight with your bullies or dumb asses on forums? That's something I like doing. Instead of just getting upset with them, just turn it into a game like mess with their minds and have them think they are getting to you and act all upset and stuff and say mean stuff back to them or comebacks.

Yeah, I think that can be considered trolling as well. The definition of a troll does not state who started it. I think trolls can often be disgruntled members under a different name or something of the like. Anything stated to intentionally upset people or ect can be defined as trolling.

People do tend to throw the word troll around these days, though. Sometimes just posting an opinion/fact/article contrary to the popular opinion can get you called a troll/banned in some places. It sucks because I think there is definately a difference between trying to make a point and trying to attack other people.

PS. I don't think you're a troll Spokane, I was just responding to what you said. Nothing personal at all.



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03 Mar 2009, 5:50 pm

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awwwww how can some people not like trolls



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03 Mar 2009, 8:01 pm

^Cute.


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03 Mar 2009, 8:15 pm

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People do tend to throw the word troll around these days, though. Sometimes just posting an opinion/fact/article contrary to the popular opinion can get you called a troll/banned in some places. It sucks because I think there is definately a difference between trying to make a point and trying to attack other people.



I once started a thread about that. People are just sore losers when they throw that word around. I also learned on another forum sometimes people will call you that when they are losing the argument. They can also call you that if they don't like you, they didn't like what you said, they don't agree what you have said, they didn't like how you pwned them or they just don't like the thread you posted or you were correct about soemthing so they call you a troll because they lost.



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03 Mar 2009, 9:28 pm

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i am rather naive and new to forums. i do not even know what trolling is! can someone explain?


trying to get a 'rise' out of people because it's funny. the current slang on the internet is 'lulz'. an older term that means the same is 'kicks'. Instead of "I did it for the kicks" people say "I did it for the lulz"

Trolls can be mean, just stupid (literally some act ret*d), they may be funny, etc. Trolls can be pretty nice people (especially with 'trolling' not being concrete; arguably holding an unpopular opinion just to debate people is trolling to some, etc).

also read this article (personally I don't agree with *everything* in the article, far from it. But it is still useful information.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/03/magaz ... lls-t.html

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but i do not intentionally say things to piss people off and i do not like to bait people and be nasty for the sake of it.


Ditto. Other people have to start it 8) :P (and I mean they are mean to people first excessively; especially to me). There have been times I have said 'no stop being a dick' or similarly.

However, I will admit to trolling in debate team. But Debate team allows you to troll; it's encouraged in a way and I inform them it's only a debate and not serious


Spokane_Girl wrote:
I wonder if it's considered trolling to pick a fight with your bullies or dumb asses on forums? That's something I like doing. Instead of just getting upset with them, just turn it into a game like mess with their minds and have them think they are getting to you and act all upset and stuff and say mean stuff back to them or comebacks.


That's trolling. More accurately, counter-trolling. There's a saying on the internet. "Trolls trolling Trolls"

ED has something on that that explains it in a different format

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They can also call you that if they don't like you, they didn't like what you said, they don't agree what you have said, they didn't like how you pwned them or they just don't like the thread you posted or you were correct about soemthing so they call you a troll because they lost.


:lol:

you said pwned. :P

Some people thought I was a really good troll when I was younger though I didn't troll.

Also yes aspies can be trolls. I know two aspies who were involved in trolling organizations (one guy was a part of the Gay n****r Association of America and Penis Pump 4 Life, and the other guy is a general chanfag and /i/nsurgent). Also there was this other aspie I remember who was involved in trolling based off what some anon said.

Also note that I use the term 'trolling' loosely. I include internet wars and site invasions under 'trolling'. (and crapflooding IRC or other IM channels, redirects to nimp, goatse, etc; posting 'funny' images on forums, etc)


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03 Mar 2009, 9:40 pm

^ There are trolling organizations???? 8O



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03 Mar 2009, 9:46 pm

mitharatowen wrote:
^ There are trolling organizations???? 8O


yes. The GNAA is a real organization. I've knew of them since 2005.

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If you answered "Yes" to all of the above questions, then GNAA (GAY n****r ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA) might be exactly what you've been looking for!
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Why not? It's quick and easy - only 3 simple steps!

* First, you have to obtain a copy of GAYNIGGERS FROM OUTER SPACE THE MOVIE and watch it. You can download the movie (~130mb) using BitTorrent.
* Second, you need to succeed in posting a GNAA First Post on slashdot.org, a popular "news for trolls" website.
* Third, you need to join the official GNAA irc channel #GNAA on irc.gnaa.us, and apply for membership.

Talk to one of the ops or any of the other members in the channel to sign up today! Upon submitting your application, you will be required to submit links to your successful First Post, and you will be tested on your knowledge of GAYNIGGERS FROM OUTER SPACE.

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03 Mar 2009, 9:49 pm

oh. and the group isn't racist or homophobic. the members are actually nice and their 'trolling' isn't known for being malicious (I knew/know some of the members)

the site also says that

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This website is maintained by GNAA, world-famous trolling organization.
We do not support and do not promote racism, homophobia, etc.
By joining GNAA you agree to abide by the rules of the Organization.

P.S. If you think this site is racist, you need your head checked.


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03 Mar 2009, 10:14 pm

young warsie, you are a veritable mine of information. thanks.

from old auntie millie :)



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03 Mar 2009, 10:20 pm

millie wrote:
young warsie, you are a veritable mine of information. thanks.


cool 8)

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from old auntie millie :)


yay! I have a godaunt :P


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03 Mar 2009, 10:26 pm

I am actually very good at trolling when I want to... But it is so pointless, cept when I am really bored... But I never cause serious harm with it, as I am the type of aspie that can't intentionally harm someone.



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04 Mar 2009, 2:43 pm

I've been accused of trolling many times. NTs have a delusional way of always seeing things one-dimensionally and all opposing views are trolling. I've intentionally trolled certain board (especially on the HP boards on IMDB) to get back at people and their cliques for being horribly vicious and mean to other people.



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04 Mar 2009, 3:01 pm

I have had some people accuse me of trolling which is total BS.

Why I don't know....... :?


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