What else can cause Aspie-like obsessions?

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12 Mar 2009, 7:51 am

From the paper by Wing:

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Schizoid personality

The lack of empathy, single-mindedness, odd communication, social isolation and over-sensitivity of people with Asperger syndrome are features that are also included in the definitions of schizoid personality (see review by Wolff & Chick, 1980). Kretschmer (1925) outlined some case histories of so-called schizoid adults, one or two of which were strongly reminiscent of this condition, although he did not provide sufficient detail to ensure the diagnosis. For example, one young man had no friends at school, was odd and awkward in social interaction, always had difficulty with speech, never took part in rough games, was oversensitive, and very unhappy when away from home. He thought out fantastic technical inventions and, together with his sister, invented a detailed imaginary world.

There is no question that Asperger syndrome can be regarded as a form of schizoid personality. The question is whether this grouping is of any value. This will be discussed below in the section on classification.


Taken from here (it has all of the differential diagnoses):

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Schizoid personality in childhood (DSM-IV)

Schizoid personality in childhood is defined by solitariness, lack of empathy, emotional detachment, increased sensitivity, at times paranoid ideation, and single-minded pursuit of special interests. All these features are seen in Asperger syndrome, and comorbid issues (depression or behaviour problems in particular) are likewise similar for both conditions. On the basis of evidence presented in Wolff's (1998) discussion of schizoid personality in childhood, we have concluded that there is significant overlap between schizoid personality in childhood and Asperger syndrome.



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12 Mar 2009, 12:27 pm

sbcmetroguy wrote:
This is similar to what my psychologist told me, because I asked her this same question. She labeled me ATYPICAL Asperger's, because I do not exhibit all the traits she normally sees but I do fit the diagnostic criteria on paper. But she told me that OCD is far more compulsive and ritualistic, in that you feel you MUST do it, not that you LIKE doing it. My obsessive interests are for my own enjoyment, and at times for my own education (such as my obsession with Asperger's and the other ASDs)!


Yes. I also have OCD (am diagnosed with that). My OCD compulsions aren't something I do because I get enjoyment out of them, like I do an Aspie obsession - I do them because I need to, to stop myself feeling anxious/uncomfortable/unhappy. An Aspie obsession is done to add something; an OCD compulsion is done to take something away.



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12 Mar 2009, 12:44 pm

Hovis wrote:
An Aspie obsession is done to add something; an OCD compulsion is done to take something away.


Couldn't have said it better myself, this explanation is simple yet right on.



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12 Mar 2009, 1:41 pm

sbcmetroguy wrote:
Hovis wrote:
An Aspie obsession is done to add something; an OCD compulsion is done to take something away.


Couldn't have said it better myself, this explanation is simple yet right on.


nice try, granted, but beside the point: the point is not why
the obsessive-like behaviour
but how it could be misinterpreted: this is not about difference

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13 Mar 2009, 7:10 pm

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I'd need someone to prove me wrong but i think Obsessive compulsive disorder shares "some" traits, such as the narrow interest thing you seek.... i'm not sure though.

I have both OCD and AS. OCD does not cause the perseverative interests. Actually, the term "obsession" when talking about a special interest is incorrect. An obsession is formally defined as the type of intrusive, anxiety-provoking thought/image that enter OCD-ers' minds.
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14 Mar 2009, 7:30 am

OddDuckNash99 wrote:
Actually, the term "obsession" when talking about a special interest is incorrect. An obsession is formally defined as the type of intrusive, anxiety-provoking thought/image that enter OCD-ers' minds.
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But the dictionary definition is different... And a special interest can become an obsession (without anxiety)...I would think. I mean, I'm new to all this stuff so I'm not claiming to be right -- I just want to understand better. Please excuse me if I've made a mistake! Hopefully my new therapist (and longer use of this forum) will set me straight soon.

PS - Awesome avatar! That's my favorite movie! :D



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14 Mar 2009, 9:34 am

The dictionary definition of "obsession" is the colloquial definition about something that you just can't stop thinking about, good or bad. But, in the psychiatric community, an obsession is only what it means for OCD. So, yes, in the colloquial sense, all Aspies are "obsessed" with their special interest(s), but in a clinical sense, only OCD-ers truly have obsessions. And thanks about my avatar. It's my favorite movie, too. :D
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14 Mar 2009, 12:25 pm

Oooooooh, I understand! Thank you! Sorry about the confusion. I do appreciate you explaining that to me.

You have excellent taste!