Autisitc/AS traits in order of prominence

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04 Apr 2009, 2:37 am

1) Can't stop thinking/living in own world a lot of the time
2) Total inertia in all areas
3) Obsessive interests
4) Inability to express appropiate emotions
5) Lack of facial expression with others
6) Can't do small talk
7) Stimming (rocking and pacing)
8) Difficulties when plans are changed suddenly
9) Sensitivity to light
10) Niavete



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04 Apr 2009, 4:04 am

Hey I just been looking at the replies and there are quite a few I missed out that should have been high on my list!


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04 Apr 2009, 5:57 am

1.) Detail-Oriented Thinking
2.) Executive Dysfunction
3.) Sensory Issues
4.) Special Interests
5.) Egocentricity
6.) Inertia
7.) Low Tolerance For Spontaneity
8.) Verbal/Non-Verbal Communication Difficulties
9.) Social Deficits
10.) Lost In Thought

The first half of this was easier to organize. The second half took me forever and I finally just quit thinking about what order they should go in.



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04 Apr 2009, 9:08 am

1. Synaesthesia (mirror-touch, number-form and colour-olfactory)
2. Alexithymia
3. Tactile, auditory and light hypersensitivity
4. Auditory processing disorder
5. Prosopagnosia
6. Repetitive thoughts, echolalia and verbal tics
7. Obsessive and pedantic nature
8. Strong inertial tendency
9. Perpetual multi-channel stimming and repetitive motion
10. Solitary and often silent nature

I only get 10? There's not much difference between #1 and #10. No room for special interests, other than part of #6 and #7, or asexuality, which is a topic in its own right. Honourable mention also to gross- and fine-motor clumsiness; relationship cluelessness; perpetual general overall anxiety; sleep disorders; restless legs; no control over facial expressions or vocal tone and poor ability to interpret the same in others; affinity for sameness in clothing, food sequence for doing things; no reciprocal exchanges; and assorted other unspecified issues above the clinical threshold.



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04 Apr 2009, 9:09 am

1. Lack of social and emotional reciprocity (especially "seeking to share")
2. Impaired ability to identify social cues and conventions
3. Unsure how to make the "next step" after small talk
4. Difficulty knowing who to trust
5. Difficulty knowing how much to "open up" emotionally to potential friends
6. Sensory Issues (makes it difficult to join in many social events - parties, etc.)
7. Difficulty following the thread of a conversation, if too many people are involved
8. Executive Dysfunction
9. Tendency to be pedantic
10. Preference for routine and consistency

These are the traits that make life difficult for me. Other traits (stimming, special interests, etc.) may be more prominent - but I see them as inconsequential (i.e. not clinically significant.)


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04 Apr 2009, 3:29 pm

Can someone explain to me what executive function is? I don't understand. What does it mean when people say they have executive dysfunction?

1. Out of it
2. Stimming
3. Getting very stressed and freaking out or shutting down
4. Making noises that aren't words
5. Obsessions and odd interests
6. Needing a lot of time alone
7. Confusion (eg. forgetting what day it is) / disorganisation
8. Being pedantic
9. Not knowing what is the correct thing to say in a situation / being unintentionally rude
10. Not understanding what people are saying to me

This task is very tricky, and my list is probably innacurate. I think one of the things about AS is that some of the most noticable things to others may be things I'm completely unaware of.



04 Apr 2009, 3:38 pm

Executive dysfunction means lot of things but I don't think it's actually a condition because everyone has it due to these following things:


Forgetting to do things
Losing things
Disorganization
Unmotivation
Troubles getting things started


Here is more information about it:

http://home.comcast.net/~kskkight/EFD.htm


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Have difficulty with goal setting, often not grasping the point of setting them
Have the sense that things either happen or don’t, little awareness of process
Have difficulty getting started on tasks, and shifting between them
Tend to live in the current moment “I know that now, but when I get to school it feels different”
Are unable to effectively reflect on past experience to plan for the future, thus common discipline measures, like incentives and consequences, produce little change in behavior
May continue to use the same strategy to solve a life problem, even when it has already proven ineffective
May vacillate from impulsivity to rigidity, often with rising anxiety over things not turning out right
Have difficulty adapting to change
Rarely matches a strategy to a problem before trying to solve it
Have low self-esteem and tend to be both unrealistic about their abilities, and very sensitive to critique
Have difficulty overriding an emotion in order to behave appropriately or positively in a situation
Have very low tolerance for failure or frustration. Will quit rather than try another approach, even when one is suggested.
Tend to believe that accepting suggestions or help indicates weakness.
Tend to locate the source of their troubles outside their control.
Will skip steps in a procedure and be baffled about the reason an expected outcome was not reached.
Have difficulty putting a sequence of steps in order, or even realizing that there are sub-goals to be accomplished on the way to the finish.
Believe they either know something or don’t, have little faith in effort.
Have difficulty shifting perspectives
Need prompting to consider the feelings or views of others
Fail to see the big picture, or the connections between details “Just when I get good at what my teachers ask me to do, they give me something new that I am no good at doing!”
See only the big picture, missing the trees for the forest.


Sound like AS?



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04 Apr 2009, 3:47 pm

Thank you for posting that Spokane_Girl! Executive dysfunction seems to be the difficulties with work and learning. I don't have much executive dysfunction, looking at that list, but I have a feeling I might have had much more of it when I was younger.



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04 Apr 2009, 7:06 pm

marshall wrote:
1.) Need for extreme focus / order in my life - I can't deal with my life any other way. I can't handle having too many "open ends" and not being able to commit to a single goal at a time. I'm the exact opposite of a spontaneous, fly-by-the-seat-of-my-pants type of person. I have to have everything planned ahead. There's no end to the anxiety and depression this causes me.

2.) Inertia - I have trouble getting started on things but then once I get into something I can't quit. Too many transitions in the day kills my inner drive and makes me depressed.

3.) Socially Awkward - I suck at small talk. I'm not ever able to spontaneously come up with things to say. I have to think everything out before I say it.

Hmm... I'm not able to think of 10 symptoms right now. I'll complete this later.


okay some more.

4.) Can't multitask - have to focus on one project at a time or I get depressed and unmotivated.

5.) Overload in noisy/busy environments - I frequently have the "can't hear myself think" problem when people are trying to converse with me in such an environment. I'm too tense to socialize unless there's some semblance of peace and quiet.

6.) Poor sleep schedule - I have a horrible time getting to sleep at a regular time so I'm always exhausted and depressed when I have a work schedule that requires me to get up early.

7.) Emotionally sensitive - I'm not sure if this is all due to AS.

8.) I experience extreme frustration and shut down when I get overwhelmed. I can't work well under stress.

9.) Don't like having to "sell myself". Job interviews and such bother me. They feel very unnatural/guarded.

10.) Anxiety about certain things. I have trouble calling people up on the phone, especially when I have to leave a message on their answering machine.

These aren't necessarily written in order of severity. I'm not in the mood to decide on that.

There's also a lot of overlap between numbers 1, 2, and 4. Perhaps they should be combined into one item?



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05 Apr 2009, 4:42 am

I wish I could this but I cannot. My impairments differ in severity and how often they are discovered/how often a situation asks for what I cannot do and the severity is in no way related to how well I can cope with the symptom.

I'd have to make two lists. But the one of severity would only go to 4-5, because most symptoms are pretty much on the same level.


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05 Apr 2009, 8:19 am

1. Obsessive interests and monologues on said interestes.
2. Sensory issues.
3. Need for sameness and routine/hatred of change. (I'm including "anxiety of new things" in this one.)
4. Frequent meltdowns/moodiness.
5. Hatred of crowds/great desire to be alone.
6. Visual-spatial deficits. (This is both my NVLD and my AS. This includes horrible navigation skills, problems with differentiating right and left, difficulties judging depth and distance, problems seeing in 3D, etc.)
7. Problems with executive functioning/multi-tasking.
8. Perfectionism.
9. Clumsiness.
10. Not fitting in with most of my peers. (I am not horribly socially deficit, nor do I care about fitting in and having friends, so this is last. :lol:)
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15 Apr 2009, 5:55 pm

marshall wrote:

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1.) Need for extreme focus / order in my life - I can't deal with my life any other way. I can't handle having too many "open ends" and not being able to commit to a single goal at a time. I'm the exact opposite of a spontaneous, fly-by-the-seat-of-my-pants type of person. I have to have everything planned ahead. There's no end to the anxiety and depression this causes me.

2.) Inertia - I have trouble getting started on things but then once I get into something I can't quit. Too many transitions in the day kills my inner drive and makes me depressed.

3.) Socially Awkward - I suck at small talk. I'm not ever able to spontaneously come up with things to say. I have to think everything out before I say it.

Hmm... I'm not able to think of 10 symptoms right now. I'll complete this later.


okay some more.

4.) Can't multitask - have to focus on one project at a time or I get depressed and unmotivated.

5.) Overload in noisy/busy environments - I frequently have the "can't hear myself think" problem when people are trying to converse with me in such an environment. I'm too tense to socialize unless there's some semblance of peace and quiet.

6.) Poor sleep schedule - I have a horrible time getting to sleep at a regular time so I'm always exhausted and depressed when I have a work schedule that requires me to get up early.

7.) Emotionally sensitive - I'm not sure if this is all due to AS.

8.) I experience extreme frustration and shut down when I get overwhelmed. I can't work well under stress.

9.) Don't like having to "sell myself". Job interviews and such bother me. They feel very unnatural/guarded.

10.) Anxiety about certain things. I have trouble calling people up on the phone, especially when I have to leave a message on their answering machine.

These aren't necessarily written in order of severity. I'm not in the mood to decide on that.

There's also a lot of overlap between numbers 1, 2, and 4. Perhaps they should be combined into one item?


Sorry if I haven't quoted the above right, I'm fairly new to this quoting malarkey :D

marshall, I can completely relate to everything you have stated above. I can especially relate to what you have stated about social occasions - small talk is one of the worst things I have to do in my day-to-day life. I just never know what to say! If I am left to my own devices, I just burble on about whatever my interest is at that current moment, which appears to annoy others to no end; or make a silly or strange comment which is not recieved too well. I just can't do the 'hello, how are you, what have you been up to' malarkey. As you have said, and I agree, it is unnatural. I have to map out, sometimes ricidulously long before, in advance what I am going to say to the person. It is not unusual for me to run over many times in my head, or even confirm it with a 'normal' person if I sound okay, if I can pass for ordinary; before, say, phoning somebody. On the phone my speech and awkwardness is usually at its worst - unless the person would completely accept me for my social awkwardness (and I have only met one such other person in my relatively short existence), I would be at a loss on what to say. I try to put off phone conversations as much as possible, or get other people to do them for me. It is not that I am lazy; just that I'm sure to mess up. Or, at least, the other person on the end of the line will think that. :oops:

I also hate pressure to do things by anybody, and find it difficult to concentrate on things at certain times of the day. However, if a topic interests me I am capable to become greatly absorbed in it.


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15 Apr 2009, 6:54 pm

Lack of a social "decoder"
Can't multitask
Obsessional thinking
Excessively literal minded
Hyperfocus on one thing to the exclusion of everything else
Getting lost in thought when I'm supposed to be doing something
Inertia
Can't stand light
Being in my own world then that 'Oh s**t' moment when I neglect something important
s**t at regulating emotions. Piss me off or get me anxious, and my glands won't calm down for 2 days or so.


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16 Apr 2009, 1:21 am

!.Obsessive interest
2.Uneven skill level (Great at Boolean Algebra suck a regular Algebra)
3.Photographic memory
4.Poor social skills can't look anyone in the eye or
do small talk.
5.Social anxiety
6.Sencory Disfunction(Can't stand loud noises or being touched.
Morbid fear of physical intimacy)
7.Need for routine.
8.Poor organizational skills
9.Stimming (Pacing rubbing hands together)
10.Detail oriented



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16 Apr 2009, 2:09 am

1. obsessive interests\
2. social awkwardness/ not good at small talk
3. Clumsiness/ poor motorskills
4. auditory processing (for example not picking up what people are saying)
5. day dreamy/always thinking
6. executitive dysfunction/ unorganised
7. eye contact problems
8. Not good at regulating emotions/ expressing them properly
9. stimming
10. touch and light sensitivity



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16 Apr 2009, 3:18 am

1. executitive dysfunction/ unorganised
2. Clumsiness/ poor motorskills
3. auditry processing (for examlple not picking up what peolpe are saying)
4. day dreamy/always thinking
5. obsessive interests
6. Not good at regulating emotions/ expressing them properly
7. touch and light sensitivity
8. stimming
9. social awkwardness/ not good at small talk
10. eye contact problems


2.,3.,4., are pretty much on par. Social awkwardness in general would be higher up than social awkwardness specifically relating to small talk (which I have mastered pretty well). Eye contact I fixed years ago.

The clumsiness for me is actually a pretty big thing (more than what other people seem to have put). People are often shocked when they see my legs (which are always black and blue with bruises from walking into things) and ask what happened, not realizing they are always like that. I have cuts, scratches, and other bruises all over my body all the time that I don't know the origin of. I often walk into things without realizing how, like I'm walking past a pillar and I somehow hit it hard with one side even though I'm sure I calculated correctly the distance between me and it.

The clumsiness is more prominent the more tired I am too.

Executive dysfunction is a massive problem for me.


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