AS in education - underachieving or overachieving?

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03 May 2009, 10:34 pm

Overachiever, although sometimes I get really consumed by my interests and can't concentrate on my studies.
Also, I'm an extreme perfectionist, which can get in the way.
I skipped most of grade 8 due to drama and P.E., but still wanted to get perfect marks. I just didn't know what to do, I was so overwhelmed by the conflict between my desire for excellence and my avoidance of social situations. There was also cultural shock involved as I was a recent immigrant. So as long as there was no group work/public speaking involved, I did very well. Now, I've grown to like public speaking, and probably wouldn't mind taking drama or even P.E.



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04 May 2009, 4:06 am

I was somewhat of an underachiever in public schools for most years, stemming from health issues. I was sick so often that I had to repeat 4th grade, and on multiple occasions, had my schedule cut down after being ill for months. On the years that I didn't get seriously ill, I still had good grades.


In my college years, health was less of an issue. I ended up having the highest GPA of anyone in the department. Then, I earned a Master's degree.


And now, after a year of an all-too-stressful job, my health issues (different ones) are back with a vengeance, and I worry about my capacity to hold *any* job.



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04 May 2009, 2:37 pm

Also a very uneven pattern of achievement...

I got very good grades in elementary school. Even after skipping second grade, I had no problem with the work.

In middle school I got bored, and my grades started to slip, though apparently I was still doing well enough to be put in all the honors courses. In high school I was practically failing, because I just didn't care enough to do the homework. (Actually, the class I did best in may have been my AP class - AP is like honors, but higher.)

Then I quit school.

After a few years I went to community college, to see whether I could handle school again. I got all A's. Then I moved on to a "real name" 4-year college. None of my final grades were less than a B-, and in my major I did well enough to be inducted into the honor society. I graduated cum laude. I achieved this while inadvertently giving people the impression that I never did any homework.

In sum: I work, and achieve, in proportion to the difficulty of the work.

A paradox.

Sidenote: My gym teachers didn't "teach" gym either. I remember an incident where a classmate used my obvious ignorance of basketball rules to get possession and score. I was mad at the time, but now I think it was a pretty brilliant move. (Although probably itself against the rules.)



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04 May 2009, 2:43 pm

Overachieving in relation to many others, but underachieving in comparison to my potential.



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04 May 2009, 7:40 pm

nothingunusual wrote:
Generally speaking. If I'm interested and dedicated to something, combined with my perfectionism, I overachieve. If I've no interest or see no relevance in the work at hand, pressured, I underachieve.


I'm generally the same way



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04 May 2009, 10:55 pm

nothingunusual wrote:
At school/collage/university - Were/are you at one end of the achievement spectrum? I've read that we have a tendency fall to one extreme or the other.

I was very much an overachiever until secondary school and swung to being an underachiever in secondary (high) school. I also went to a snotty grammar/private school obsessed with league tables rather than the development of it's students, so needless to say this didn't go down well, especially from someone who'd been at the top of the class in prep. In my case, it was a combination of being unhappy and overwhelmed with social expectation, but also disinterested in alot of the work we were expected to do while attempting to show my disgust at the aforementioned snotty, elitist status-quo within my school. I also had problems with organization skills, so I wouldn't have done too well anyway, especially considering I wasn't diagnosed with AS.

Generally speaking. If I'm interested and dedicated to something, combined with my perfectionism, I overachieve. If I've no interest or see no relevance in the work at hand, pressured, I underachieve.

All thoughts welcome...


I did pretty much tthe same as you! MAN, I started getting BETTER and BETTER and BETTER, and others seemed pretty stagnant. THEN I really slowed down, and they did better. In the end, on average, we may have ended up relatively equal on general things. In others, I am better. Like YOU though, that was on things I was interested in or saw a need for.



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04 May 2009, 11:12 pm

My grades are fairly average, maybe even below average for my "smart person" school, but they would be a lot better if I actually cared about school.



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04 May 2009, 11:16 pm

elderwanda wrote:
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I absolutely hated P.E too. I was a very unhealthy and uncoordinated child.


I always hated PE, too. I don't know how it is in Australia, but here in the U.S., no one ever actually tells you HOW to play a sport. It's assumed that you know the rules automatically. So, everyone goes out on the field and starts YELLING all at once, as if winning the game is a life or death situation, but you never know what you're supposed to be doing. If you do the wrong thing, you get yelled at by your peers, and sarcastic remarks from the teacher, but no one tries to help you learn for next time.

That's what it was like for me. I remember we had to play touch footy and I had no idea what to do, so I just stayed up the back.
This girl was like 'you know how to have fun, right?' We all have different definitions of fun.
My teacher would think I was purposely slacking off so made me run laps around the oval.


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05 May 2009, 9:02 am

2ukenkerl wrote:
nothingunusual wrote:
At school/collage/university - Were/are you at one end of the achievement spectrum? I've read that we have a tendency fall to one extreme or the other.

I was very much an overachiever until secondary school and swung to being an underachiever in secondary (high) school. I also went to a snotty grammar/private school obsessed with league tables rather than the development of it's students, so needless to say this didn't go down well, especially from someone who'd been at the top of the class in prep. In my case, it was a combination of being unhappy and overwhelmed with social expectation, but also disinterested in alot of the work we were expected to do while attempting to show my disgust at the aforementioned snotty, elitist status-quo within my school. I also had problems with organization skills, so I wouldn't have done too well anyway, especially considering I wasn't diagnosed with AS.

Generally speaking. If I'm interested and dedicated to something, combined with my perfectionism, I overachieve. If I've no interest or see no relevance in the work at hand, pressured, I underachieve.

All thoughts welcome...


I did pretty much tthe same as you! MAN, I started getting BETTER and BETTER and BETTER, and others seemed pretty stagnant. THEN I really slowed down, and they did better. In the end, on average, we may have ended up relatively equal on general things. In others, I am better. Like YOU though, that was on things I was interested in or saw a need for.


What's crazy about that is that nobody said anything about it. None of my teachers seemed confused or curious enough to want to find out why things had swung from one extreme to the other. Then again, I guess it was the grammar school mentality coming into play again. A good example of this was summed-up in the case of a girl in my class who had been a good enough student, then she was diagnosed with Dyslexia and had asked for extra classroom assistance. The school asked her to leave. :x


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05 May 2009, 4:50 pm

nothingunusual wrote:
2ukenkerl wrote:
nothingunusual wrote:
At school/collage/university - Were/are you at one end of the achievement spectrum? I've read that we have a tendency fall to one extreme or the other.

I was very much an overachiever until secondary school and swung to being an underachiever in secondary (high) school. I also went to a snotty grammar/private school obsessed with league tables rather than the development of it's students, so needless to say this didn't go down well, especially from someone who'd been at the top of the class in prep. In my case, it was a combination of being unhappy and overwhelmed with social expectation, but also disinterested in alot of the work we were expected to do while attempting to show my disgust at the aforementioned snotty, elitist status-quo within my school. I also had problems with organization skills, so I wouldn't have done too well anyway, especially considering I wasn't diagnosed with AS.

Generally speaking. If I'm interested and dedicated to something, combined with my perfectionism, I overachieve. If I've no interest or see no relevance in the work at hand, pressured, I underachieve.

All thoughts welcome...


I did pretty much tthe same as you! MAN, I started getting BETTER and BETTER and BETTER, and others seemed pretty stagnant. THEN I really slowed down, and they did better. In the end, on average, we may have ended up relatively equal on general things. In others, I am better. Like YOU though, that was on things I was interested in or saw a need for.


What's crazy about that is that nobody said anything about it. None of my teachers seemed confused or curious enough to want to find out why things had swung from one extreme to the other. Then again, I guess it was the grammar school mentality coming into play again. A good example of this was summed-up in the case of a girl in my class who had been a good enough student, then she was diagnosed with Dyslexia and had asked for extra classroom assistance. The school asked her to leave. :x


Well, I switched schools a lot. The pattern I noticed has a scientific explanation, AND many others noticed the SAME thing with THEM. Of course, I DID lose interest a couple years before ANYWAY.



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05 May 2009, 5:03 pm

Used to be overachiever but after my sixteenth I swung right to underachiever.
Though I'm still able to (sometimes barely) pass grades with little studying, I could do much better.



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05 May 2009, 6:23 pm

I was an over-achiever from K-6 grade cause I went to a poor urban public school where the majority of students were often failing, flunking out...whatever.

Then I got transferred to Catholic School in 7th and 8th grade and all went to crap. Underachiever from there and ever since. (I know for damn certain I should've flunked 7th grade but I guess the Catholic School officials were too cowardly to make a student have to repeat a year).

But I graduated from high school and college about average.