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No - a diagnosis is not a diagnosis until a person have been properly diagnosed.

Fo-Rum did not ask if a diagnosis was a diagnosis before it was a proper diagnosis (although technically you incorrect even here, since any diagnosis is a diagnosis, and there is no distinction between proper diagnosis and other kinds, either something is a guess about one's clinical/medical/health status, or it is not).

Fo-Rum is asking if people can have ASDs before they are diagnosed with one. I suggest the answer is yes, since otherwise there would not be anything to diagnose.

If someone has an ASD, then there are recognizable indicators/symptoms evident in their early childhood. This is true whether or not someone is diagnosed in child hood, or adult hood, or not diagnosed at all.

Many times PDs also beggin in childhood - PDs only are diagnosed at an adult age, not because they only appears at adulthood, but because only then it is possible to distinguish between a permanent trait of the personality (a PD) and a temporary phase.

A person who has Huntington's has Huntington's from birth. But that's not the point... The point is they don't start showing symptoms until later in life. That was the issue of personality disorder vs autism. The person with the personality disorder would not have seen the symptoms in childhood anymore than someone with Huntington's would have shown their symptoms in childhood. ONSET.

I'm not sure how true that theory on personality disorders is, however.