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Do you want children?
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I already have/had children 14%  14%  [ 27 ]
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15 Dec 2009, 7:51 am

I guess it's an aspie trait to beat a dead horse. That's why shallow topics like this keeps on growing around here.



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15 Dec 2009, 4:11 pm

I hate kids. I hated them when I was a kid, and my hatred has only grown since then. Crying babies is one of my biggest sensory issues, and I hate the fact that kids are unpredictable and you can't control them. Plus, I have no motherly instinct whatsoever. I'd probably have a really difficult child with a lot of psychiatric problems, too. Yet another reason not to have a child! I was an absolute nightmare to raise, what with all of my psychiatric issues, and I would almost bet that I'd get a kid just like me. I couldn't handle a neurotypical child, let alone one with my issues. My mother and grandparents have stopped saying that I'll "change my mind," because they have seen how long and strong my hatred of being around children is. I want to get married. I never want children. Cats will be my children.
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15 Dec 2009, 6:30 pm

There's nothing wrong with not wanting to have children. I dislike it when people just expect that it's a step along the road in life that everyone should take (especially us women). I never want to have kids either. My boyfriend says I'll probably change my mind when I'm older, but I disagree. While I do have a caring side towards people I'm very close to, I can't imagine having to do it all the time.



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15 Dec 2009, 7:03 pm

I never want to have a family. Do you know how much time, energy, effort, and money that will need me to put in? I have no desire whatsoever to do it.

Plus, there is of course no freedom when you have kids, the constant worrying about looking after them, how school's going, etc.

Also, I don't even trust myself to look after a cat without help! There's no way I'll be able to handle pet humans :P



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15 Dec 2009, 7:16 pm

My friends call me the most "motherly" of the group.
I like kids. I like taking care of kids.
I just LOVE to feel needed, like I have a purpose.



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15 Dec 2009, 7:34 pm

Shaye wrote:
My friends call me the most "motherly" of the group.
I like kids. I like taking care of kids.
I just LOVE to feel needed, like I have a purpose.


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Not wanting children and hating them are entirely different ideas. Sometimes, they occur together.

But children need to feel needed. Helps them to bloom and grow. Even if you do not want them, do not go around hating them. This is the sad thing. This is how many of us on the spectrum were treated when we were small.

I always felt the way Shaye did. I was surprised to read this from someone so young. And it is a choice, a personal one. Stewart Mango on one end, and Shaye on the other.

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15 Dec 2009, 8:37 pm

Also not wanting children and being a bad person are different concepts


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16 Dec 2009, 7:25 am

Whisper wrote:
There's nothing wrong with not wanting to have children. I dislike it when people just expect that it's a step along the road in life that everyone should take (especially us women).


Hmm, kind of ironic when women can't get children without help from a man in one or another way? :wink:
Or men are just not as "expected" to, they just get them if they want to?
But I see a point: A single man is less likely to get the question "aren't you soon finding a girl so you could have kids"? (Or yes, for the girl part, but not so much for the kids part.)
Personally I've not really got that question from others.



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16 Dec 2009, 11:16 am

Eggman wrote:
Also not wanting children and being a bad person are different concepts


Note from the eggman topic

Yet sometimes they occur together. But not you. :wink:


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16 Dec 2009, 4:06 pm

And sometimes wanting children and being a bad person occur together


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31 Dec 2009, 8:35 pm

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That's why mail boxes were invented :wink:


You still can but it's not safe to do. Something could go wrong. Someone on I didn't Know I was Pregnant gave birth to a baby boy in her own home. But then the paramedics came and took them to the hospital. Actually a few moms gave birth at home. Someone gave birth to her baby in a bath tub.


:roll: Lol you know what I mean.
Besides, I'm useless at posting things too.
I can put them in the mail box obviously lol, but addresses and details and other complicated things that are involved confuse me :(
I just go mad lol.
Society is complicated.

And for giving birth at home I know the law allows you to but like you said they often come and take you to hospital anyway.
Personally I'd rather be at home with a midwife.
Now that I've said that you can be sure I'll be dragged kicking and screaming to a hospital against my will if I ever have a baby.



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31 Dec 2009, 8:41 pm

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I am tired of people telling me I have problem, because I DON'T want children!! !
I'll even give 20 reasons why I don't want them:

1. Birth.

2. Responsibility. All of life's prior responsibilities pale in comparison.

3. Diapers.

4. 3am wake ups. Caring for a child takes a lot of physical and emotional energy, made all the harder by babies that only sleep for ninety minutes at a time.

5. Hard on marriages. A baby takes so much time and attention that spouses must already have a great friendship and work well together before the baby arrives.

6. Advice. Total strangers leap forward to offer advice about how to raise your child. Most of the advice is contradictory and flat out wrong. Strangers will be much easier to ignore than your friends and family, many of whom have raised children quite successfully. Some advice you may want, but lots of it will be unsolicited and unappreciated.

7. Changed relationships. When your family expands by the addition of a child, your relationships with everyone, and I mean everyone, changes.

8. Free time. You will have none. Most time not spent with your child will be spent catching up on work you need to get done.

9. Worry. Parents always worry about their children, monitoring how fast they reach each milestone and how well they grow, eat, sleep, crawl, walk, read, make friends, and so on.

10. Money. Children are expensive in several ways.

11. Laundry. Children do not contribute to household chores until they are older, and even then they generate more work than labor.

12. Tantrums.

13. Rebellion.

14. Dissonance.

15. Pain. Your child will cry and you won't know why or how to fix it.

16. 6 billion people.

17. Failed expectations.

18. Lost freedom.

19. Hard work.

20. The unthinkable. The death of a child, while unlikely, is devastating.


By all means, don't have children. That will be more oxygen for me and my children to breath. Also you will have no influence on the far future since you are passing nothing to Eternity.

Stick your fist in a bucket full of water and pull it out fast. Look at the water. That is is much influence as you will have exerted on the world.

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31 Dec 2009, 9:14 pm

ruveyn wrote:
StewartMango wrote:
I am tired of people telling me I have problem, because I DON'T want children!! !
I'll even give 20 reasons why I don't want them:

1. Birth.

2. Responsibility. All of life's prior responsibilities pale in comparison.

3. Diapers.

4. 3am wake ups. Caring for a child takes a lot of physical and emotional energy, made all the harder by babies that only sleep for ninety minutes at a time.

5. Hard on marriages. A baby takes so much time and attention that spouses must already have a great friendship and work well together before the baby arrives.

6. Advice. Total strangers leap forward to offer advice about how to raise your child. Most of the advice is contradictory and flat out wrong. Strangers will be much easier to ignore than your friends and family, many of whom have raised children quite successfully. Some advice you may want, but lots of it will be unsolicited and unappreciated.

7. Changed relationships. When your family expands by the addition of a child, your relationships with everyone, and I mean everyone, changes.

8. Free time. You will have none. Most time not spent with your child will be spent catching up on work you need to get done.

9. Worry. Parents always worry about their children, monitoring how fast they reach each milestone and how well they grow, eat, sleep, crawl, walk, read, make friends, and so on.

10. Money. Children are expensive in several ways.

11. Laundry. Children do not contribute to household chores until they are older, and even then they generate more work than labor.

12. Tantrums.

13. Rebellion.

14. Dissonance.

15. Pain. Your child will cry and you won't know why or how to fix it.

16. 6 billion people.

17. Failed expectations.

18. Lost freedom.

19. Hard work.

20. The unthinkable. The death of a child, while unlikely, is devastating.


By all means, don't have children. That will be more oxygen for me and my children to breath. Also you will have no influence on the far future since you are passing nothing to Eternity.

Stick your fist in a bucket full of water and pull it out fast. Look at the water. That is is much influence as you will have exerted on the world.

ruveyn


Your children will die. Your children's children will die. Your children's children's children will die. This huge influence that you have on the world will become nothing.


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31 Dec 2009, 9:51 pm

Having children doesn't put any real influence on the world, you're doing the exact same things billions of people have done before.

If you want to make an influence on the world, do something new, do something unique, do something special. The only people who will attribute those things to your children are you, not the world.



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31 Dec 2009, 10:21 pm

ruveyn wrote:
Stick your fist in a bucket full of water and pull it out fast. Look at the water. That is is much influence as you will have exerted on the world.

ruveyn

Ruveyn, famed author Robert Heinlein died childless - he and his third wife, Virginia, were simply mutually infertile (his second wife, Leslie, didn't want children, and his first marriage was very short).

Heinlein invented the concepts behind the waterbed, the moving sidewalk (he called them "slidewalks"), and the magnetic railgun, among other things. He inspired two generations of scientists and SF authors, sometimes in the same person (as with physicists Dr. Charles Sheffield and Dr. Jery Pournelle, and mathematician Larry Niven). Better than two-thirds of the scientists involved with Project Apollo, and a rising percentage of NASA scientists since, have cited Robert Heinlein as one of their major influences in career choice. He won the very first Grand Master Nebula award, voted by one's fellow science-fiction authors for general excellence over one's career, and a shelf-full of Hugo awards, voted by the readership. His visions have influenced every SF movie ever made since his first, Destination: Moon (I still hold that Aliens was the most faithful adaptation of Starship Troopers yet).

Do you believe that he has had no more influence on this world than a fist has on a bucket of water? Is spawning truly the only way you can conceive of changing the world?


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01 Jan 2010, 12:58 pm

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Wow, I totally agree with you StewartMango. Another reason not to have children though is the state the world is in today. It isn't the sort of place I want to bring children into personally.


I still remember when I was a LITTLE KID saying I did NOT want to bring any kid into the world. The bullies, the stupid world, the overpopulation, etc..., FORGET IT! Around 30 yo or so(perhaps 25 years after the day I said NO WAY), I started regreting this aspect. Oh well, I still think this world would have done better WITHOUT humans!