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14 May 2020, 1:25 am

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I'm just saying not everyone thinks like that as I don't and as weird as I might think the odds of being that unique are too slim. For me, more like simply attractive - yes/ no. The parts that would make a scale more precise for myself are beyond physical features, personality being the biggest.


Scientific research suggests we all respond more positively to others based on appearance attraction. This applies to both males and females but the mechanism/covariance varies depends on external factors such income and social status for men.

The threshold for deciding what is attractive (Y/N) still goes through a cognitive mental algorithm. That algorithm can be processed instantaneously but our brains process factors quickly via cognitive shortcuts.



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14 May 2020, 1:27 am

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10 - She's probably an instagram model



a lot of what you see on instagram isn't real.
i mean, it's social media


It is real for those men who spend millions each year on cam girls....



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14 May 2020, 1:48 am

Rape is a terrible thing as is sexual abuse. I suffered sexual abuse in childhood from my family doctor and a woman never recovers from that.
One thing that I have learned in life is that I can distance myself from toxic environments. I left my home and country at the age of seventeen and never looked back.

I choose my friends according to purity of heart, nothing else. It's appaulling that hollowmoon was raped, or set up to be raped.
Beauty in itself has no value other than for the superficial dictates of the narcissistic, hedonistic society we live in. Beauty is not a testimony to personal achievements that are of value to society, of self-value, nor does it mean that you are potentially a better friend wife or mother because you meet the criteria of being considered beautiful.

I can though have an indication of a persons' moral compass, intellect, altruism, values by the people they group with, wish to be identified with, spend their time with. If you choose a "beautiful" nasty, jealous crowd of girls to clone to then you are choosing the wrong environment and are cooperating with the mistaken values that are dominating our culture.
In my experience beauty for women can be a handicap. Women who are less attractive often try harder to succeed, develop themselves more through having to fend for themselves. My beautiful women friends ( lovely inside and out) just had to blink and men would drop everything and cater to their every whim and fancy. They never had to struggle for anything.

Choose your environment carefully, choose "friends" who respect you and defend you as you would them, who care about doing good for society, otherwise life lacks the depth and meaning that mutual caring and nurturing add to our lives and our existence becomes like a senseless, narcissistic, superficial "look at me and my botox" reality show.


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14 May 2020, 2:06 am

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Rape is a terrible thing as is sexual abuse. I suffered sexual abuse in childhood from my family doctor and a woman never recovers from that.
One thing that I have learned in life is that I can distance myself from toxic environments. I left my home and country at the age of seventeen and never looked back.

I choose my friends according to purity of heart, nothing else. It's appaulling that Hollowmoon was raped, or set up to be raped.
Beauty in itself has no value other than for the superficial dictates of the narcissistic, hedonistic society we live in. Beauty is not a testimony to personal achievements that are of value to society, of self-value, nor does it mean that you are potentially a better friend wife or mother because you meet the criteria of being considered beautiful.

I can though have an indication of a persons' moral compass, intellect, altruism, values by the people they group with, wish to be identified with, spend their time with. If you choose a "beautiful" nasty, jealous crowd of girls to clone to then you are choosing the wrong environment and are cooperating with the mistaken values that are dominating our culture.
In my experience beauty for women can be a handicap. Women who are less attractive often try harder to succeed, develop themselves more through having to fend for themselves. My beautiful women friends ( lovely inside and out) just had to blink and men would drop everything and cater to their every whim and fancy. They never had to struggle for anything.

Choose your environment carefully, choose "friends" who respect you and defend you as you would them, who care about doing good for society, otherwise life lacks the depth of mutual caring and becomes like a senseless, narcissistic, superficial "look at me and my botox" reality show.


This is precisely what I advised hollowmoon to do - choose her friends and situations more wisely - but my post was deleted.



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14 May 2020, 3:17 am

Hollowmoon

Can you change your social circle, career, your environment in general, it's what you have control over?

I mean as a person on the autism spectrum you will always be blindsided by certain social occurrences, that's not going to change, it's part of who you are.
Society in general needs much more time to adapt to invisible disabilities, so that's not changing soon either...

It looks to me like a goldfish swimming with sharks.


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14 May 2020, 3:18 am

cyberdad wrote:
Teach51 wrote:
Rape is a terrible thing as is sexual abuse. I suffered sexual abuse in childhood from my family doctor and a woman never recovers from that.
One thing that I have learned in life is that I can distance myself from toxic environments. I left my home and country at the age of seventeen and never looked back.

I choose my friends according to purity of heart, nothing else. It's appaulling that Hollowmoon was raped, or set up to be raped.
Beauty in itself has no value other than for the superficial dictates of the narcissistic, hedonistic society we live in. Beauty is not a testimony to personal achievements that are of value to society, of self-value, nor does it mean that you are potentially a better friend wife or mother because you meet the criteria of being considered beautiful.

I can though have an indication of a persons' moral compass, intellect, altruism, values by the people they group with, wish to be identified with, spend their time with. If you choose a "beautiful" nasty, jealous crowd of girls to clone to then you are choosing the wrong environment and are cooperating with the mistaken values that are dominating our culture.
In my experience beauty for women can be a handicap. Women who are less attractive often try harder to succeed, develop themselves more through having to fend for themselves. My beautiful women friends ( lovely inside and out) just had to blink and men would drop everything and cater to their every whim and fancy. They never had to struggle for anything.

Choose your environment carefully, choose "friends" who respect you and defend you as you would them, who care about doing good for society, otherwise life lacks the depth of mutual caring and becomes like a senseless, narcissistic, superficial "look at me and my botox" reality show.


This is precisely what I advised hollowmoon to do - choose her friends and situations more wisely - but my post was deleted.

Why was it deleted?


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14 May 2020, 4:10 am

The moderator (or somebody else triggered) was triggered by a male making the comment (obviously no problem that a female (Teach51) said almost exactly the same thing).



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14 May 2020, 4:40 am

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The moderator (or somebody else triggered) was triggered by a male making the comment (obviously no problem that a female (Teach51) said almost exactly the same thing).

Was this explained to you?
Do you know that someone was triggered or are you inferring?


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14 May 2020, 5:43 am

Perhaps the problem was that cyberdad addressed his post directly to hollowmoon whereas I just talked about my personal experience and opinion in general? I don't know, I didn't read his post.


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14 May 2020, 6:26 am

cyberdad wrote:
Teach51 wrote:
Rape is a terrible thing as is sexual abuse. I suffered sexual abuse in childhood from my family doctor and a woman never recovers from that.
One thing that I have learned in life is that I can distance myself from toxic environments. I left my home and country at the age of seventeen and never looked back.

I choose my friends according to purity of heart, nothing else. It's appaulling that Hollowmoon was raped, or set up to be raped.
Beauty in itself has no value other than for the superficial dictates of the narcissistic, hedonistic society we live in. Beauty is not a testimony to personal achievements that are of value to society, of self-value, nor does it mean that you are potentially a better friend wife or mother because you meet the criteria of being considered beautiful.

I can though have an indication of a persons' moral compass, intellect, altruism, values by the people they group with, wish to be identified with, spend their time with. If you choose a "beautiful" nasty, jealous crowd of girls to clone to then you are choosing the wrong environment and are cooperating with the mistaken values that are dominating our culture.
In my experience beauty for women can be a handicap. Women who are less attractive often try harder to succeed, develop themselves more through having to fend for themselves. My beautiful women friends ( lovely inside and out) just had to blink and men would drop everything and cater to their every whim and fancy. They never had to struggle for anything.

Choose your environment carefully, choose "friends" who respect you and defend you as you would them, who care about doing good for society, otherwise life lacks the depth of mutual caring and becomes like a senseless, narcissistic, superficial "look at me and my botox" reality show.


This is precisely what I advised hollowmoon to do - choose her friends and situations more wisely - but my post was deleted.

1) There are many obvious differences between your post and Teach51’s. Teach posted in a way that was both empathetic and sympathetic. You made no attempt at this, instead immediately accusing the other poster of attention seeking and saying that she was responsible for the attempted rape - ie you explicitly blamed the victim. You didn’t offer support, you offered criticism, which is not appropriate. This was explained to you in private messages.

2) WrongPlanet rules forbid discussion of deleted posts, locked threads and banned users. We have tried to allow some in a few recent high-profile examples but this backfired hugely.

3) Please don’t derail threads to talk about your grievances with moderators.



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14 May 2020, 6:31 am

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she was responsible for the attempted rape


I made my case, you've had your decision so be it...but I never said she was responsible for her rape...please don't distort my post in justifying the deletion.

I'll leave this thread since I feel I am being targeted unecessaraly



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14 May 2020, 6:40 am

cyberdad wrote:
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she was responsible for the attempted rape


I made my case, you've had your decision so be it...but I never said she was responsible for her rape...please don't distort my post in justifying the deletion.

I'll leave this thread since I feel I am being targeted unecessaraly


I didn't read your post but that's not fair if you didn't say that. From what I've witnessed in the short time I been here it's best to forget and move on.


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14 May 2020, 7:16 am

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Hollowmoon

Can you change your social circle, career, your environment in general, it's what you have control over?

I mean as a person on the autism spectrum you will always be blindsided by certain social occurrences, that's not going to change, it's part of who you are.
Society in general needs much more time to adapt to invisible disabilities, so that's not changing soon either...

It looks to me like a goldfish swimming with sharks.


I like that analogy Amity, goldfish swimming with sharks, though sharks do not deliberately plan to humiliate and abuse an innocent companion, I understand they are just hungry not malicious.


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14 May 2020, 7:39 am

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Hollowmoon

Can you change your social circle, career, your environment in general, it's what you have control over?

I mean as a person on the autism spectrum you will always be blindsided by certain social occurrences, that's not going to change, it's part of who you are.
Society in general needs much more time to adapt to invisible disabilities, so that's not changing soon either...

It looks to me like a goldfish swimming with sharks.


I like that analogy Amity, goldfish swimming with sharks, though sharks do not deliberately plan to humiliate and abuse an innocent companion, I understand they are just hungry not malicious.

True... I am being unfair to sharks, a cat playing with a mouse? ...Maybe enough animal analogies lol.
If I were in a similar situation I would be aiming for a change of scenery.


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