I want to be cured.

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I don't think the stone age would necessarily be a bad thing. I would be comfortable in that environment.

There are plenty of NTs that are brilliant with technology. Aspies aren't the only ones who've ever contributed to technology. We would not live in the stone age and most NTs aren't even aware of AS strengths nor do they care.

It sounds like you are all talking about the decay of society as if it will happen anytime soon or even in our lifetimes. There is no decay. If you want learn about decay, read about the Dark Ages. I do not see any decline in technology or medicine at all, if anything it is improving immensely. As for the economy and education, that is because idiots infiltrated those areas and as soon as better standards are set, things will improve.

Mere survival in that enviroment would be very difficult, let alone anything else. Also bear in mind how much the world population would have to decrease in order to sustain such an environment.

everything is temporary so don't throw away those flint fire starter kits just yet.

If I grow my hair out again I coud live in the stone age, but I'm bringing my laptop.

I don't like how a cure equals OMGZ GENOCIDE!!1! or how people with AS tend to exaggerate the influence or accomplishment we may have had.

I am literally talking about surviving over night in a more northern climate - without a cave you are pretty much screwed.

Anyone who seriously feels that a cure equals genocide should read about genocide. I do not think that scientists and doctors have bad intentions, they are only trying to help. Who would waste their time Hitler-eugenics style on trying to eradicate a fringe group like us?

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... I live in Alaska... I don't want the stone age anymore, take it away.

Well I have made a lot of enemies in my day...

I doubt Hitler had bad intentions when he started out - its not means that count, its ends. The "ends" in this case would be pretty disastrous.

As for wasting time, there has been a good few $ billion thrown at it so far, so don't be so doubtful.

Enemy doesn't equal wanting to kill you or anyone associated with you, let alone wanting to study for years and years about biology and medicine to cure a syndrome.

I am proud of who I am even though I'm AS. I don't feel like part of the herd, who are obsessed with the latest fashions, mobile phones, parties, credit card gifts etc.

However, it broke my heart to find my son is AS too. Can anyone here honestly say they punched the air in delight on realising their own dear child is AS? I don't think so. The child will go through all the pain, loneliness and confusion that I did.

Which makes me a hypocrite.

They want to IMPROVE LIVES! No one is out to get us nor do they really care. If you don't want a cure, no one is going to kidnap you, shove you into a straitjacket. slam a pill down your throat then stab an injection through your skin. This is not X-Men 3. The most that would happen is that they'll think you're strange and move on with their lives.

There were billions thrown because they are making a genuine effort to help. There are billions thrown at other disorders and syndromes too, but those who want to cure autism look like devils?

Hitler always made the Jews scapegoats. It was no secret that he hated them. Mein Kampf was written a decade before Hitler came to power and he was in jail while he wrote it. He did not appear to care about them at all.

Improve the lives of whom exactly? It is in practise a guilt aversion scheme on behalf of the parents than anything else. As for not wanting a cure, I go further than that - I don't want one to exist. Two reasons (a) It will reduce the Autistic population (with the obvious consequences for those who do not take said cure and (b) it devalues our own lives, meaning for those of us who choose not to take such a cure changing society for ourselves vanishes off the map as a priority or possible priority.

The difference is that nearly universally for most of these conditions, people with them want to be cured. Here its a lot different, and most of those on the spectrum who do want a cure want it due to the societal aspects of it, rather than the condition itself. I maintain that the only realistic "cure" for ASD's is changing society.

Hitler hated them I assume because they were a non-meritocratic aristocracy, sure they worked hard, but they did damn good at entrenching their advantage. In the same way NT's do their thing these days.

Me. You. Countless people afflicted with this disorder. Do you seriously think that a severely autistic person who throws a tantrum over the slightest dent of their routine, cries and screams whenever the fluorescent lights are too bright or the school bell is too loud wants to live like this? What if they get cured to the point where they barely notice these things like most people?
Some of them smear their own crap and scratch themselves until they bleed well into adulthood. Who the hell wants that?
Let's take a high functioning autistic or AS person who wants to live independently, get a job , have a relationship and get to do all the normal things the person his or her age gets to do yet can't because of social difficulties. What's so great about being 40-years-old and living with your mother? I'm not saying that's you, but that's reality for many.



Who else is going to help the autistic children? It's not a damn conspiracy, they just see the struggles the children go through and want to fix it. They're speaking to the parents because it is the parents who are inquiring the most about this.



That's the point. How about saying it will help them have better and easier lives. That is not a tragedy. Replace autistic with bipolar or schizophrenia and you'll see how little that actually matters.



Oh well. Maybe if you took the cure you wouldn't have felt isolated. Freedom of choice goes both ways, deal with the consequences.



Have you ever heard of the anti-psychiatry movement? It's not an itty-bitty Internet website, but a serious attempt for people of all mental illnesses not get to hospitalized or medicated AT ALL. They have even had protests.



When in Rome do what the Romans do. If you don't like it, go form your own community. Maybe you'll succeed where Aspergia failed. Your AS will be a major obstacle though as you need very good social skills to start something like this.
Asking society to follow yours and others with this disorder's whims is frankly spoiled. Should we change entire cultures, language, and customs to suit a small percentage of people? It's not like we're paraplegics and simply building a ramp and having handicapped parking will help, but entire forms of communication will have to change. Communication that is embedded into from before they learn to speak and more than likely genetic. They have to change entire social cues for you? Also, everyone is afflicted with AS differently, how are we going to accommodate for every single person and every single one of their issues? Sure they can read a book on how to deal with AS, but who has time to remember and enforce all of this, every single time a misunderstanding occurs?

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