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08 Jan 2006, 8:41 pm

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In this life there are no winners. There are only bad losers, bitter losers and sore losers.


The ones who get the girl are winners.


No.

The girls who get the alimony are winners.



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08 Jan 2006, 9:22 pm

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Thanks for confirming what I've previously stated.

So, anyway, author, unless you can't think of any original comebacks, may I enquire as to what information you have on autism to base your accusations against?


Why do you keep harrasing me with this? Go to any article on autism and they will all tell you the same. Go to the other places on the forums and look at how many posts you find about people becoming depress. Depression is greater in autism. Depression in autism can be triggered by emotional and social impairments and sensory overload. If you dont have problems in those areas then I question how you got diagnosed with AS to begin with.



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08 Jan 2006, 9:27 pm

Hey guys... playing school marm really isn't my thing, but there are a lot of people in this thread pushing each other's buttons, and I've been contacted by a member who doesn't appreciate the attacks. If it gets too heated we'll have to lock it for a bit.

-Pyraxis (as mod)



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08 Jan 2006, 9:27 pm

We aren't saying that we are never depressed. Where the heck did you come up with that? We are just ticked because you jump to conclusions and act like you know how it is. You don't know everything about autism, ESPECIALLY if you go and read what doctors say about it. You should learn from your own experiences with it, NOT the doctor's feeble opinions.

(I'm not bashing doctors, some are very good, but others are not so good)



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08 Jan 2006, 9:30 pm

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Hey guys... playing school marm really isn't my thing, but there are a lot of people in this thread pushing each other's buttons, and I've been contacted by a member who doesn't appreciate the attacks. If it gets too heated we'll have to lock it for a bit.

-Pyraxis (as mod)


...And it took you people 11 pages of this thread to realise that?

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Why do you keep harrasing me with this? Go to any article on autism and they will all tell you the same. Go to the other places on the forums and look at how many posts you find about people becoming depress. Depression is greater in autism. Depression in autism can be triggered by emotional and social impairments and sensory overload. If you dont have problems in those areas then I question how you got diagnosed with AS to begin with.


Okay, then, the reason for my harassment:

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At the University of Montreal, Laurent Mottron and his team set out once and for all to find evidence of core weaknesses in Autistics as none had done so before. The impairments in Autism are not known, they are assumed. So much accurate information about Autism is available that the results in any properley conducted test is predictable, so Mottron and his team set perimeters in which the chances of weaknesses exposing themselves would be assured. They still found none, all they discovered were inherent strengths which would have been understanderbly unrecognised or misinterpreted in other labs. Where as other studies assumed Autistic weaknesses existed and sought aggressively, often with value-laden inferences to prove it so, the Montreal research involved input from Autistic rights campaigner Michelle Dawson. Ms Dawson's contribution was in pointing out unfairness in experiments, from citing that even a Neurotypical control couldn't perform better in some difficult tests(which was proven true with NT controls) to pointing out where an assumption of impairment was little more than an assumption.


From the "Cure for autism? I think not!" thread.



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08 Jan 2006, 9:41 pm

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We aren't saying that we are never depressed. Where the heck did you come up with that? We are just ticked because you jump to conclusions and act like you know how it is. You don't know everything about autism, ESPECIALLY if you go and read what doctors say about it. You should learn from your own experiences with it, NOT the doctor's feeble opinions.

(I'm not bashing doctors, some are very good, but others are not so good)


I didnt think that some people would consider my personal experiences as an excuse for starting this topic. But if that is how you want me to approach it, you will find that people do not acknowledge the existance of Asperger's syndrome, otherwise I wouldve gotten my diagnosis a whole lot sooner than 18 years. These ignorant people are whom we are constantly being judged by everyday. They judge us more by our quirks than our ability, if any to be geniuses. And Ive never had a good judgment about my quirks, have you?

Also, saying that "we dont need a cure" is telling them (the judgmental NTs who've taken over) to go away and leave us alone. The sad truth is that the world is dominated by judgmental people. I really dont like the idea of being dividing ourselves from the rest of the world because we would rather prefer living in our own bubbles but it's too late because society already sees us in this way. People with AS are not devoid of feeling lonliness and cutting ourselves off only makes it worst for ourselves, especially when we chose to do so.

Perhaps having a cure means losing our individuality. I'm sorry but I would rather conform than be lonely and miserable. Ive been lonely and miserable for far too long. I havent had the privilege of being sheltered in my own little bubble and having enough within it to keep me busy. Just an opinion, but I think that that is one of few causes of people having content with their AS.



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08 Jan 2006, 9:47 pm

Again, the human race has discovered that what we call autism is prevalent in our species, and yet we don't know really alot about it, so why is the stigma necessary?



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08 Jan 2006, 9:47 pm

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I didnt think that some people would consider my personal experiences as an excuse for starting this topic. But if that is how you want me to approach it, you will find that people do not acknowledge the existance of Asperger's syndrome. They are the people whom we are constantly being judged by everyday. They judge us more by our quirks. Saying that "we dont need a cure" is telling them to go away and leave us alone. The sad truth is that the world is dominated by judgmental people. I really dont like the idea of being dividing ourselves from the rest of the world because we would rather prefer living in our own bubbles but it's too late because society already sees us in this way. People with AS are not devoid of feeling lonliness and cutting ourselves off only makes it worst for ourselves, especially when we chose to do so.

Perhaps having a cure means losing our individuality. I'm sorry but I would rather conform than be lonely and miserable. Ive been lonely and miserable for far too long. I havent had the privilege of being sheltered in my own little bubble and having enough within it to keep me busy.


But I think you're missing the point. Most "proud" aspies don't make a point to isolate themselves from the world. They do get depressed and lonely, and they do try to learn some of the skills needed to make it socially or career-wise. But they just feel that in spite of those difficulties, they're still good people, and are not disabled. They are proud of the strengths that come with AS, not the difficulties.

Of course, I do think that some aspies are a little too proud, but that's another issue.



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08 Jan 2006, 9:56 pm

pyraxis wrote:
Hey guys... playing school marm really isn't my thing, but there are a lot of people in this thread pushing each other's buttons, and I've been contacted by a member who doesn't appreciate the attacks. If it gets too heated we'll have to lock it for a bit.

-Pyraxis (as mod)


This thread has been far overdue for being locked. I have already admitted to my mistakes regarding starting this thread and people are still giving me sh*t for posting this to begin it. If you want you can delete this thread all together, feel free. I am trying to best to learn from my mistakes by resisting the temptation to offend any more people. It honestly has not been working for the past couple of hours. I really dont care now. Might as well just kill this topic and let those who like to flame other people's posts live with their superegos.



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08 Jan 2006, 10:04 pm

toonaspie wrote:
thepeaguy wrote:
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Thanks for confirming what I've previously stated.

So, anyway, author, unless you can't think of any original comebacks, may I enquire as to what information you have on autism to base your accusations against?


Why do you keep harrasing me with this? Go to any article on autism and they will all tell you the same. Go to the other places on the forums and look at how many posts you find about people becoming depress. Depression is greater in autism. Depression in autism can be triggered by emotional and social impairments and sensory overload. If you dont have problems in those areas then I question how you got diagnosed with AS to begin with.



I dont even know what is going on here. The Pea guy and i are seeing a hot topic wind down and i get accused of harrassment.
Show me where i have been harrassing.

And if you are the one asking for heads around here, that would leave plenty to be desired, and a bit ironic.
I am lost, i don't know what you mean.

Nobody was even talking about you in the quote you cited.

I don't get it, i am lost on all this.


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08 Jan 2006, 10:32 pm

Where did you get the idea we were harassing you? Show examples.

You made this thread so people would reply to it. So people did, and they haven't lived up to your standards somehow.

Like said before, Proud Aspies are mainly proud because of the strengths that come from autism, not the weaknesses. They see the positive side of things, or try to most of the time. You yourself could get out of your depression, probably, if you just tried be interested in more things, or trying to get involved with more hobbies. That is the good thing: We can take as many hobbies as we want and keep our interests up.

A cure is not necessary, mainly because a cure just will never exist. The human brain is too advanced for science... science is prehistoric compared to the mightiness of how the brain works. Realize, that finding a cure will be impossible. We have to live with what we have and be comfortable with it. We have to adapt in order not to get depressed.



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08 Jan 2006, 11:23 pm

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As sophist pointed out i think the cure that is being researched most into and the most likely (at least far into the future) to come about is pre-natal screening for abortion of autistics as we have now for people with downs syndrome.

This is hypothetical at the moment as autistics isnt a noticeable genetic difference like Downs syndrome is and there is no way of telling an autistic in any way other than behaviour in an adult which makes being able to tell the difference in the womb impossible, at least for now.


They won't do that :!: :!: :!:


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08 Jan 2006, 11:44 pm

As the mother of an autistic son I'm very saddened by this thread. I know there are very rude, hateful, obnoxious people in this world, but they are rude to everyone, including NT's. Toonie, I'm sorry you feel hated for being different....but I don't think that people hate you for that reason. I don't think people hate you at all. What do people do to make you feel that way? Maybe I can help you understand. Usually rude people hate themselves and it makes them feel better to put others down.

With autism on the rise, I pray to God that the world is educated enough where my son never has to feel like he is hated for being different. Personally, I think he is perfect.



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08 Jan 2006, 11:45 pm

Do you look at the bottle half full or half empty


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08 Jan 2006, 11:48 pm

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I'm sorry you feel hated for being different....but I don't think that people hate you for that reason. I don't think people hate you at all.


Maybe someone should have told that to the people at school who bullied me every day, non stop, until I snapped. Because they sure as hell picked on me for being different, and I pay for it every day surpressing my temper, and going to counselling. And I know I winge about this a lot - but hey, I'm bitter. Ruined the best years of my damn life.



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08 Jan 2006, 11:48 pm

This forum reminds me of another one that happened not to long ago hmmmm :? 8O


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