WTF Article claims Positive Effects of Bullying Autistics

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I think the word bullying gets thrown around now. Now if you are just rude, you are a bully. If you are having a bad day, you are a bully, if you try to do something funny to someone, you are a bully, if you talk about someone, you are a bully, if you don't want to play with someone, you are a bully, and of course if you confront the author, you are a bully.

It all depends on context and I don't think talking about someone is always bullying. Sure if you are just talking to someone about what you think of a person but you were not doing it to embarrass them or to make fun of them but instead that person decides to spread that around which is why you have to be careful who you talk to and share your opinion with about someone. Joking can be bullying if it's done repeatedly and you know it bothers the person. Ignoring someone can be bullying but it depends on the context.

Some people view websites as People of Walmart, emails from an a**hole, too big for a stroller, as bullying websites. I am sure some might see Not Always Right website as bullying, some might see videos about dumbest criminals and 1000 ways to die as bullying, and websites and videos about dumb 911 calls as bullying or talking about dumbest things people have done or dumbest complaints you ever got from your customers or dumbest thing you have seen at work. I was once called a bully when I posted a thread elsewhere about worlds dumbest people so by that person's logic, all these people are bullies who posts these things online and who make TV shows about it and he even told me we're all bullies and he is appalled by it. I am sure he thinks all these places are bullies because he sees it as making fun of people but ironically I have seen him act like a bully himself.

My mom thinks I have never really gotten bullied but then what do you call it then when someone gets hurt by the teasing and sarcasm and jokes and when kids just target that person because they know it upsets them and they know they can just get them into trouble? That gets called normal kid behavior so therefore it's not bullying? She thinks I was just a very sensitive person so it stuck out more for me and I took it hard because of my tender feelings. This makes me feel like I am crazy and maybe I took it all wrong and maybe those kids didn't understand my over reaction so they did it more. Also I wonder if my AS played a factor because we get upset with teasing and sarcasm so I wonder if it made me the bully unintentionally so kids thought I was the bully and treated me as such and I wasn't diagnosed with it then so no one didn't know so they saw me as the bad guy for reacting which is why we tend to get into trouble and the bullies do not. But my mom made it clear it doesn't invalidate my feelings and how it affected me in the future and she also told me I took it all too literal when kids would do normal teasing with me. Then I would be confused when they would be nice to me again.

When someone writes an article that bad, I wonder if they have a communication problem.

I doubt she has a communication problem.

Put it this way - I hadn't heard of her app until the article....

Neither had probably most people here... and elsewhere online...


She's communicating something - just probably not what it would initially appear to be.

I have an app

OK, you'll need to promote it

How?

Reach your target market

How?

Skirting controversy normally works - if you do this, the activists will do all the promotional work for you

Nice one, thanks

I'm not an activist and I'm not bleeding

People can learn about the realities of life/taking care of ones self through an agent other than being bullied.

I don't think bullying equates to being rude. If a boss says that you suck, it's rude. If he threatens your job, despite you doing excellent work because you're a Mets fan and he is a Yankee fan, it's bullying IMHO.

Its should be taken on a case by case basis.

I believe in standing up to Life, rather than giving up on it.

The author is clearly unfamiliar teen suicide and school shootings.

If you look at a majority of teen suicides, a large factor is bullying. Thousands of teenagers have lost their lives to bullying and the person that wrote this encourages that?!

Adam Lanza was bullied as a kid, and he murdered his mother and 20 children.

Last edited by Rudin on 18 Oct 2015, 12:14 pm, edited 1 time in total.

I did. Before the first time you asked this question, actually. It would appear (can't say for certain, obviously, but am making an educated guess based on the following, among other things) that you were rushing to simply argue, without actually reading the post. If you can't be bothered to read what you're refuting, there's no compelling reason for me to go out of my way to re-read for you. I'm not trying to be mean in saying that, just giving a gentle reminder that if you rush to argue without even reading what you're arguing against, logically, there can't be any sort of logical argument (you stated originally that what you were doing here was attempting a logical debate so I was going on that premise).

I'm not angry, upset or even miffed, just giving you a gentle heads-up about your argument style (i.e. not being careful to see what you're arguing about first) as it was you who said you wished a logical debate. Hope you get the answers you're seeking.

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It's true that people can take "bullying" to mean different things and that some people may go overboard by stating things that aren't really bullying are bullying. BUT this author is supposedly a communications expert. Surely she knows the difference between what most people would consider bullying, and just oversensitivity and/or misuse of the word. She chose the word, and assuming she knows what it generally means (IOW what most people wouldn't argue against being actual bullying), I doubt she was taking the word the wrong way (again, being, supposedly, a communications expert).

OMG, did you see what this woman wrote?! I'm going to put this on my fb, and pass it to all my friends! I'll tell them to pass it to all their friends!

OMG this is terrible. Who is this woman? Let me read up on her. Oh, she has an app - I wonder what nonsense that is.

Actually, that app sounds pretty good - I think I'll look into it

You've all just given the woman tens of thousands of dollars worth of free promotion through your own self-righteous sense of injustice and inequality.

You activists - your sense of injustice is actually what traps you, as others know saying the least thing that'll 'offend' will provoke a reaction that you won't let go of until you feel like justice has been carried through.

Silly little puppies, all being led down the garden path....

Take off the blinkers and see the article for what it is - a promotional tool. Your sense of self-importance is blinding you from reality.

Do you think the article would exist without an app to promote?

Good God, people...

I read he had OCD and had a lot of compulsions about killing so it wouldn't surprise me if his OCD attributed to the crime. I did read in "The Man Who Couldn't Stop" by David Adam that people with OCD can commit a crime due to their compulsions and they couldn't control it anymore so they give in but it's rare for an OCD person to commit a crime due to their illness. That might have explained my own violent thoughts and heading for psychopathy with our dog we had and that was my OCD flaring up because of that damn animal.

I think some people are more likely to shoot up a school than others who are also bullied victims or else tons of them would be doing it. Also I don't get why they would even kill innocent people in the first place who never did anything wrong to them. He walked into a elementary school and did it so I doubt all these kids bullied him. He was a 20 year old guy and all these kids were like under 12 so I doubt he knew them personally. Reminds me of the movie Carrie when after the mean joke these kids did, she uses her power to kill everyone in the prom and then she dies at the end and she had been bullied badly and abused by her peers and teachers. Even Stephen King seemed to predict the future with his book. I didn't start hearing about school shootings until I was in the 6th grade.

Funny thing is I didn't even know she had an app, and tbh I don't really care since her argument was so superfluous-- her marketing was shite if we're looking at it exclusively as an advertising strategy.

Edit: as for being an "activist" you're being an "activist" with your entire argument chain. You're so upset by any threat to the status quo that you're actively arguing for it's continuance. It cuts both ways, as most terms based solely on commonplace invective generally do.

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Do you think she might have wrote it this way on purpose to get all this attention so her app gets noticed? Wow that is very brilliant if she meant to do that. Just wrote a provoking title and the article and that will get her more attention for her app. But I think there is a better way of getting attention for your app than trying to draw negative attention. There is advertising, she can have it advertised on the air about autism, she can have it advertised on autism websites and do banners and ads. do it the way other companies advertise. I see talk shows do advertising all the time such as Dr. Phil and sometimes the Today show advertises. She could have gone on autism forums and advertised, she could have it it advertised in autism books by other writers.

I don't think school shootings are caused by bullying.

I think bullying is a huge factor.

I was bullied as a kid, I haven't murdered anyone. It's a whole variety of factors that leads to people killing, bullying may be one but it doesn't make it the cause.

I agree with Rudin-- he's a genius, aside from the times he doesn't agree with me.