List one NT thing you do not understand.

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04 Nov 2009, 11:02 pm

Their irritating tendency to gravitate towards wherever you are sitting in a cafe or restaurant.

they seem to have some sort of flocking instinct and it really annoys me if I want some peace and quiet.

I will find a quiet corner, and you can guarantee the next people who come in will make a beeline for a table in front of me or next to me.
And I usually mutter very loudly too about sheep.



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04 Nov 2009, 11:22 pm

The way I see it for fashion: too much time and money spent on shopping and even THINKING about what to wear. I don't have time/ don't care about what others think about my clothes.



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05 Nov 2009, 4:29 am

I do not understand the whole concept of feigning enthusiasm, especially when it concerns socializing with someone you don't like. Sure, I can understand if it's in an office situation and there's money on the line, but if not, why be miserable?


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05 Nov 2009, 10:52 am

i don't understand the NT culture of lying.



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05 Nov 2009, 1:22 pm

Major Holidays. Doesn't matter which one. All of them are stupid.

Christmas:
Original meaning: Yay! Jesus is alive!
Current meaning: Yay! Spend all of your money on stuff for other people!

Easter:
Original meaning: Yay! Jesus is back from the dead! (Zombies are great!)
Current meaning: Yay! Pastel colored eggs! Quick! Hide them from the children!! ! THEY CAN'T KNOW!! !! !! !

Fourth of July:
Original meaning: Yay! 'Merica's free!
Current meaning: Yay! Let's blow things up that make a lot of noise and hurt people's and animals' ears while harming the environment!

Halloween:
Original meaning: s**t! The goblins and demons are coming out! DISGUISE YOURSELF and HAND OUT SNACKS TO THEM TO APEASE THEM!
Current meaning: I'M GOING TO DRESS UP AS SOMETHING THAT MAKE ME STAND OUT EVEN MORE TO THE GOBLINS AND DEMONS AND COMPLETELY UNTERRIFYING!

Thanksgiving:
Original meaning: Thanks, Native Americans, for allowing us to slaughter you and eat all of your food while we take over your land.
Current meaning: Thanks, Native Americans, for allowing us to slaughter you and eat all of your food while we take over your land.

(we should really stop celebrating this one)

My family has decided we are going to celebrate Yule this year instead of Christmas. I like this idea.


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05 Nov 2009, 1:24 pm

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05 Nov 2009, 1:28 pm

Odin wrote:
Janissy wrote:
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Mapler wrote:
Fashion. I can't believe I missed the biggest one of them all. Well my friends don't bother explaining to me in detail what the meaning of being fashionable is & what clothes to wear, etc. I really want to know. :cry:


Although I have virtually no interest in clothes at all personally, I can, nevertheless, understand someone being interested in putting together and wearing outfits they like. What I absolutely cannot understand is fashion in the sense of simply wearing particular clothes because everyone else is, because the media has told you that those clothes are the correct/fashionable thing to wear, whether you truly like them or not. I've seen people literally laugh at clothes when they were out of 'fashion', then three years later when they're in 'fashion', enthusiastically buy and wear them.


On the surface it looks baffling but I think "fashion" is actually being used as a proxy for something else. I think it's being used as a proxy for figuring out how well somebody pays attention to and responds to their enviroment. It is a measure of how quickly a person can adapt to change- a trait that is generally seen as valuable. The people who get a pass are the ones who demonstrate that their unwillingness to follow fashion is a conscious choice rather than an inability to assess and adapt to a quickly changing enviroment. The ones who get reviled the most are the ones who attempt to follow fashion but are unable to adapt quickly enough. It shows that they want to adapt to their enviroment but don't have the skills to do so, which gets more derision than choosing not to.
I think the answer is much simpler: Clothing designers are good at getting people obsessed with social status to part with their money as often as possible.


I saw this thing online where people take pictures of regular folks they see out and about, post it online, and talk about whether the fashion item in question is good or bad. For instance, if a slightly chubby person is wearing a horizontal striped shirt and capri pants, people would say that it's horrible, and a giant fashion faux pas. However, if the exact same outfit is on a very thin person with long legs (or a model on a runway), then it's chic and fashionable. As far as I can tell, "fashionable" means any outfit at all, no matter how hideous it is, as long as it's being worn by someone who is 6 feet tall and weighs 102 pounds. If you are 5 feet tall and weigh 180 pounds, there is nothing you can wear which people will think is fashioable. (Unless you have a tiny waist, and then you can play up the whole "real women have hips" thing, to an extent.)

Personally, I'm all about comfort. If things are binding and pinching, I can't think of anything else.



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05 Nov 2009, 2:29 pm

Graelwyn, that is very interesting as there are time when I too try to find a nice,quiet place only to have someone make me feel as though, I'm being anti-social or something..



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05 Nov 2009, 11:00 pm

Nightsun wrote:
Why NTs think about unsolvable problem?
For me problem (not mathematical or the like) are:
a) solvable -> so solve it.
b) unsolvable -> so it's not a problem.


love it!



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05 Nov 2009, 11:15 pm

heliocopters wrote:
My family has decided we are going to celebrate Yule this year instead of Christmas. I like this idea.


I celebrate Yule. I'm excited - I've always celebrated by myself but this year I will be celebrating with a local pagan group.



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06 Nov 2009, 5:30 am

How is going out to noisy dingy bars with flashing lights supposed to be socialising? Why do some people have new boyfriends or girlfriends after knowing that person for a few hours? How come people are called losers because they don't have a busy social life? I mean, there's nothing wrong with being a sociable person, but there's nothing wrong with needing to spend time alone now and again or preferring your hobby/job/passion/solitude, etc than a busy social life.

Also, why is it when anyone who doesn't have a mental disorder hears that I have AS that they feel really bad for me? Also, how come when I explain the good aspects of AS (or at least in my case) they deny it? I know my own goddamned brain better than anyone else!! !!



06 Nov 2009, 5:47 am

MindBlind wrote:
How is going out to noisy dingy bars with flashing lights supposed to be socialising? Why do some people have new boyfriends or girlfriends after knowing that person for a few hours? How come people are called losers because they don't have a busy social life? I mean, there's nothing wrong with being a sociable person, but there's nothing wrong with needing to spend time alone now and again or preferring your hobby/job/passion/solitude, etc than a busy social life.

Also, why is it when anyone who doesn't have a mental disorder hears that I have AS that they feel really bad for me? Also, how come when I explain the good aspects of AS (or at least in my case) they deny it? I know my own goddamned brain better than anyone else!! !!



Lot of people think having a condition is a horrible thing. I am not sure why. Hard to explain.

People who jump to a relationships when they hardly know someone, it's because they are desperate. I jumped into a relationship over night when I was 20 because I never had a boyfriend before and I really wanted one. So there's the reason why.



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06 Nov 2009, 3:35 pm

MindBlind wrote:
Why do some people have new boyfriends or girlfriends after knowing that person for a few hours?


Are you sure those couples only knew each other for a few hours? Or does it just seem that way? There may be stuff that you don't know about behind the scenes.
I've been (wrongly) accused of coupling with someone that I don't even know, but I actually knew him very well, other people just never *saw* me talk to him before.
We used to go to school together and we sat at the same breakfast table, and we conversed occasionally, but not enough for people to recognize us as friends. He graduated a year before I did. About six months after he graduated, he started working at the same place I worked at. We still didn't talk that much in front of other people (we were expected to work and not converse), but we did talk when we were alone. Then one day, he decided to ask me out for dinner and a movie. I gladly accepted and we've been a happy couple ever since. He is now my fiancé. :D

But to the outsider, it just looked like some guy walked up to some girl, even though he doesn't seem to know her, to ask her out, and she accepted, even though she doesn't seem know him.


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07 Nov 2009, 10:35 am

Susie123 wrote:
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I do not understand the entertainment value of bullying.


I'm an NT, and I don't, either. It makes me sick.


i agree it sucks and ive been bullied in school and online.



07 Nov 2009, 11:40 am

I don't understand why people feel bad for others when they didn't even cause it.



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07 Nov 2009, 3:10 pm

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I don't understand why people feel bad for others when they didn't even cause it.


that one I do; cause they don't think the person deserves the abuse, I guess.