Playing the Autism Card May Be Harmful to Humanity

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This my main thread and I'm not going to let it go. I think the mistake I made was gauging it for a very intellectual audience and not participating enough in the general community; however this is my thinking....it is natural and even healthy for people to split into groups according to their common interest and general level of understanding, but at some point in a mind that is realizing the interdependence nature of all phenomena, these two groups need to merge.

Meaning---IF a person is functioning consciously from the perspective of realizing all phenomena are interdependent, which realization imo would be very rare for an adult. Children are in some way naturally functioning from such a perspective, which is what all these spiritual teachings about being like a little child are referring to, but the reasoning of a child is not yet developed, and if left to their own devices (or given the devices of many if not most adults) they are going to go off.


So I am going to continue communicating but try to make it a bit more simple, though still plenty complex.

Will start with this: One thing can mean and generally almost always does mean something else to someone or other. There is a flexibility of context, and it is necessary to consciously attempt to make a general context or middle ground in order to be able to function somewhat effectively. In order to do this one may need to give up or sacrifice some part of their data. Of course this relates back to the basic principle of encapsulation which is a natural mechanism of human brain function but can also become a means of self protection along the lines of avoiding facing reality, and as I have written,, the way in can also be the way out, but there would have to be some principle of transformation or else the way out would also be the way in, so there could be no way out.

Thanks so much to the person who replied to this message by Marybird yesterday.That response was only on this thread for less than an hour and then deleted, so only a few people saw it.

This is a very rich message, but at the time I first read it, I was unable to mentally touch how to process it. I am kind of dim in some ways, perhaps because of brain damage from having a lot of concussions from falling down steps onto my head and tripping over cracks which were whited out because I am sun blind, and also because of falling off a cliff, or maybe I am just kind of dim and/or there is something I cannot face.

Basically, the problem of processing this message is for me: Someone takes something away from the child by not seeing and accepting the whole child. That part is clear. And then the child forms an inner pocket in which he keeps this card which respesents a part of himself which is presumably not completely consciously known to himself, and tries to play this card in an attempt to be his whole self, which would be a natural thing to do. Also clear.The part that is difficult to understand and the question that arises is--does this part of oneself exist in a pure and natural form once it has been unconsciously supressed? The answer would have to be no, (as a missing part of oneself cannot be ones whole self), as well as yes:-) because in terms of object relations, when playing this missing part or card in the search and life drive to express himself, the whole self does exist, though obscured, stained or covered up by the part, so not in its pure and natural form of being (able to fully express) oneself, but the child is bound to perceive the missing part of himself as his whole self, even though it now exists as a card. Here is the conundrum.

So a person would have to play this card in such a way that it reconnects himself back to his whole self, but since he no longer is functioning from his whole self, but from a deck with a missing card, he is, in a sense, not playing with a full deck because not being his whole self has been built upon, and the knot or not which is tying up the expression of his natural self is the very foundation of his being or lack of being.

I did not come to any new understanding here. Am just stating the problem which I would appreciate any feedback in terms of finding a solution, and to the person who pointed out this message, thank you so much.

To continue, Marybird did see the above message and commented to me on an other thread about theory of mind, that it actually did make a little sense to her, but always commented on that same thread previous to reading the message here:

http://www.wrongplanet.net/postp5955904.html#5955904 You also might want to read the message I wrote on perception (quoted by Eureka13) which follows the message from Marybird.

I am not going to comment on this comment by Marybird now, but am putting it out here for people to think about. My message on perception which describes the biggest insight of my entire life to touches on this same subject.

Probably what I wrote above wil be a little difficult to understand, but to paraphrase--- the new idea I got from this person's message, which idea never previously occurred to me, is that,different kinds of brains may serve a regulatory function for the general brain of humanity If you think of all brains as being a component of a giant brain. I cannot believe I never thought of this before, as it is so obvious. So, if true, would this imply that playing the autistim card would be harmful or helpful to humanity? To me it is obvious it would imply that playing such a card would be harmful. In a future message I will go into detail about why I think this may be so.

And by playing the autism card I do not mean being your own natural self, accepting yourself and functioning with your own natural kind of brain function, or thinking you are autistic or calling yourself autistic, though I do not recommend doing the latter two so much, as a person get got stuck in that mode of processing data about oneself and others who are supposedly not like oneself from a very limited perspective.

I thought you weren't supposed to engage in this behavior any more.

Littlebee, I've seen you trying to connect to people lately (in your own way), I think I understand how you feel in some measure (although you might not believe that). And whereas I believe that WP is strong because within bounds we are all allowed to be individuals with our own points of view, if that pov is really nothing but a long string of hatred spewed toward Autistic people with no real point to it, that's something different. Plus, I think having this thread gives you an insane ego that then causes you to bring these ideas into other threads with pointless malicious attacks.

THis is just my opinion, I'm just one voice - but I think this thread should be locked.

Sorry if I shouldn't have said this publicly, you guys can always delete it (and ban me or whatever).

PS - if you just talk to people, they will respond.

Thread locked as it doesn't appear to be going anywhere positive and seems to denigrate the membership.