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28 Apr 2014, 8:30 pm

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But that doesn't exempt you from trying, and it doesn't exampt you from learning small, simple things, like three word greetings to use. It doesn't give you carte blanc to be bitter about others who manage to do what you either can't do for real, or won't try for at all. You post one minute how awesome and great you are, then the next you post how you can't do anything. So which is it? Are you awesome or not? Can you do things or not? I've really had it with trying to speak to you about any logic or reason at all, because you refuse to even entertain the idea of it. Go ahead and spend your life blaming women, and blaming women with certain political views. That's really gonna get you somewhere. Live your life however you want to, and make your bed and then lie in it. Refuse to listen to anybody who may have been where you are now and gotten results. Give up on yourself before you even try. Talk about it a lot to women. Maybe it'll get you a pity f**k or something. Who knows. However, I'm done with trying to give you advice and trying to help you. I'm not going to do that just to be accused of BS you just pull out of your ass, and insulted. Maybe it's not your AS that causes you to not get and keep a gf, maybe it's your personality. Either way, I wish you luck, as useless as that wish might be until you decide to make some changes. Or you can sit there with your "poor me" complex and wallow in your misery but be prepared to do that alone. You know what they always say in restaurants don't you? "Bitter, party of one?"


My political view has nothing to do with my relationship status,
Im not a Liberal,please.

What does any of this has to do with me having GF or not.
And I told you,I have improve my social skill with women.



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28 Apr 2014, 9:01 pm

Ain't nothing wrong with being a Liberal per se; ain't nothing wrong with being a Conservative per se. Political ideologies are just that: Ideologies. They are not often rooted in reality.



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28 Apr 2014, 10:24 pm

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Bill just seems like a frustrated guy. I bet he doesn't hold these views in "real life." Perhaps he feels like a "victim" via women, and just wants to rant?


Look at the sort of rubbish he posts and then tell me it's not his problem.

http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt256912.html



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28 Apr 2014, 11:39 pm

I agree it's his problem. I can't believe an Aspie would hold these views. Many people rant on forums. I bet he's actually a pussycat with women in real life. This is his "aggressive" part of his passive-aggression.



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29 Apr 2014, 12:00 am

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I agree it's his problem. I can't believe an Aspie would hold these views. Many people rant on forums. I bet he's actually a pussycat with women in real life. This is his "aggressive" part of his passive-aggression.


I treat ladies with respect. My lady friend(quasi-gf)doesn't
really understand respect,but good news we got along
today and had a good conversation,she'll come back
to me(she does this on her own)like she has before.

she does her stupid mad b.s which f--king get me
pissed off.a week or month from now,she'll
get horny and flirty and repeat the same oh same oh.
She comes to me,folks.This is all her



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29 Apr 2014, 1:28 am

billiscool wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
I agree it's his problem. I can't believe an Aspie would hold these views. Many people rant on forums. I bet he's actually a pussycat with women in real life. This is his "aggressive" part of his passive-aggression.


I treat ladies with respect. My lady friend(quasi-gf)doesn't
really understand respect,but good news we got along
today and had a good conversation,she'll come back
to me(she does this on her own)like she has before.

she does her stupid mad b.s which f--king get me
pissed off.a week or month from now,she'll
get horny and flirty and repeat the same oh same oh.
She comes to me,folks.This is all her


W O W. i mean just wow. keep diggin' that hole. :lol:

are you really like this by accident, or is this all some kind of convoluted ironic statement that's sailing over all of our heads? :shrug:



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29 Apr 2014, 3:05 am

I apologize for everything I had to do with this digression.



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29 Apr 2014, 8:05 am

That's why we're Aspies; we doth digress :wink:



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29 Apr 2014, 10:03 am

I am now starting to wonder if the purpose of this thread was more to get at this 'billiscool' poster.....Would anyone be opposed to getting back on topic and not having this thread be about said poster. Or was this thread even meant for actual discussion in the first place?

As for that thread people keep bringing up, I don't see any proof in that thread as to how this poster treats his female not really girlfriend friend....I've ranted about family and people I know on the internet probably not in the nicest of ways, but that doesn't reflect how I typically interact with people. I just don't think you can judge someones entire life by what they post on an internet forum.

But I suppose I'll see if this thread ever gets back on topic.


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29 Apr 2014, 10:25 am

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You know what they always say in restaurants don't you? "Bitter, party of one?"


Totally reserve me that table. In a quiet spot, not near the kitchen, small children, or anyone with a cough. And tell the waiter to bring the usual, and keep the wine coming, and if he stops by while I'm eating or reading to ask how everything is I'll shoot him.

[engages in brief, wild fantasy of restaurants having entire bitter sections]



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29 Apr 2014, 10:31 am

Sweetleaf wrote:
I am now starting to wonder if the purpose of this thread was more to get at this 'billiscool' poster.....Would anyone be opposed to getting back on topic and not having this thread be about said poster. Or was this thread even meant for actual discussion in the first place?

As for that thread people keep bringing up, I don't see any proof in that thread as to how this poster treats his female not really girlfriend friend....I've ranted about family and people I know on the internet probably not in the nicest of ways, but that doesn't reflect how I typically interact with people. I just don't think you can judge someones entire life by what they post on an internet forum.

But I suppose I'll see if this thread ever gets back on topic.


I read a lot of Billiscool's messages in the dating section yesterday and didn't find anything particularlly offensive about his comments, and I am a feminist, but if I discuss or defend my point of view, which some may not understand by this brief comment, obviously, I will do it on one of those threads.. Here are three links I found for other threads he either started or is on where you can discuss this. I found one of the threads asking if there are differences between austistic men and women quite interesting. I was go9ng to post these limks yesterday but then got so disgusted I didn't bother.

http://www.wrongplanet.net/postp6014842 ... t=#6014842

http://www.wrongplanet.net/postp6026300.html#6026300

http://www.wrongplanet.net/postp6025986 ... t=#6025986



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29 Apr 2014, 10:39 am

How can anybody be bullied by a Sweetleaf? :wink:

Yeah.. we got off-focus--but that's the fun of some threads: digressions could often a provide an alternative avenue to pursue, which would bring us, eventually, back to the topic.
Sometimes, the flavors we experience on the way are good, sometimes, not so good.

It's true: we became engrossed with Bill's notions; and Bill got engrossed with our notions pertaining to Bill's notions. Bill seems like an all right guy. C'est la vie, Let's move on.

I still believe one must, if possible, transcend their bullied past. Life is about enduring hardship; if we had no hardships, we would have little enjoyment. This is my philosophical outlook. I don't always follow it, of course--but it's an ideal worth shooting for.



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29 Apr 2014, 10:41 am

tarantella64 wrote:
OliveOilMom wrote:
You know what they always say in restaurants don't you? "Bitter, party of one?"


Totally reserve me that table. In a quiet spot, not near the kitchen, small children, or anyone with a cough. And tell the waiter to bring the usual, and keep the wine coming, and if he stops by while I'm eating or reading to ask how everything is I'll shoot him.

[engages in brief, wild fantasy of restaurants having entire bitter sections]

After reading this message I would suggest for anyone interested in the topic the op presented to leave this thread for a while, as people seem to have lost the gist of an imo very important topic and are just in the nether. Once that tendency gets going and is not nipped in the bud, then it's kind of hard to stop it. i will be discussing this on my thread, Threads OF Autism, though maybe not today.



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29 Apr 2014, 11:07 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
How can anybody be bullied by a Sweetleaf? :wink:

Yeah.. we got off-focus--but that's the fun of some threads: digressions could often a provide an alternative avenue to pursue, which would bring us, eventually, back to the topic.
Sometimes, the flavors we experience on the way are good, sometimes, not so good.

It's true: we became engrossed with Bill's notions; and Bill got engrossed with our notions pertaining to Bill's notions. Bill seems like an all right guy. C'est la vie, Let's move on.

I still believe one must, if possible, transcend their bullied past. Life is about enduring hardship; if we had no hardships, we would have little enjoyment. This is my philosophical outlook. I don't always follow it, of course--but it's an ideal worth shooting for.

Once a certain force is leaked and the focus lost, then its not so easy to get it back. The digression affects the way I perceive you and also your words. Some kind force and focus that really does interconnect people, even if they have different points of view, has been leaked and the seriousness of the topic degraded. Yes, all topics can lead back home if a person knows how to do it, but I don't think you do, and I don't even know how myself. Sometimes the only thing to do is to consciously wait. Anybody new who comes to this thread is going to look back in the last few pages and read that imo ridiculous silly dialog and it will affect their brain function and weaken the affect here. That is really too bad.



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29 Apr 2014, 1:36 pm

Well, hello to you too!

If you would consider carefully my latest thread, you will notice that I sought to bring the topic back to focus.

Your "perception" of me and "my words" does not matter in this context. If I actually allowed "leakage," thus a decrease in this thread's quality, I wholeheartedly apologize.

This is a very contentious topic. Even amid the "diversion" of which I speak, we were discussing the topic. One poster felt like he was being "bullied" because he felt he was being taken advantage of for being "lower-functioning." He made some comments which rankled the women somewhat; they were seen as being sexist. As a result, the other poster was attacked for being sexist and (perhaps)being stubborn.

Afterwards, I listened to the admonition of Sweetleaf, and sought to bring the topic back to its original focus.

Please read my thread carefully. I even made a concerted effort to bring the thread back to focus--PLEASE READ CAREFULLY.

Please, let's move on. Life is Life. I don't think the "quality" of the thread has decreased any.

Perhaps all of us, together, could find a way in increase the quality--not by attack, but by discussion.

Sometimes, truthfully, levity is a lifesaver for any thread.



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29 Apr 2014, 4:25 pm

I don't know what all the fuss is about, but I really dislike seeing people gang up on one person on a forum. It's like watching a feeding frenzy.

I think everyone should have the opportunity to say what they want to say. But what is the need to keep berating other people for what they post, or how they express themselves, or how they live their lives or whatever? In the end most people don't really care who started it, or who said what. It just feels bad to see it happening.

It's no coincidence that threads like this usually end up focusing on one person. It starts out with a general complaint about the forum, which sets a precedent for judging other people for how they post. Then as the pages go on it tends to zero in one person, almost like they become the scapegoat for all the complaining.

I don't follow enough of what goes on here to know what is behind it all. And I don't want to know. I just know that seeing this kind of thing puts me off of wanting to participate here more. I hesitate to even click on threads because I wonder what kind of arguing will be going on.