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09 Jul 2012, 8:04 am

I think it has more to do with the fact that a person outside the medical field doesn't have the credentials to make a diagnosis, thus when a person (who isn't a psychologist or someone else qualified to make a diagnosis) diagnoses themselves with any condition, that person tends to lose credibility among their peers, especially those who were actualy determined to have that specific condition. It's like someone being forgetful and going around telling people they have Alzheimer's (when they don't).



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09 Jul 2012, 8:06 am

Here is another link that someone posted on WP


13 Secrets Parents Need to Know About Autism but Haven't Heard Yet

So what is this telling us? To try to helpp each other!


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09 Jul 2012, 8:08 am

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Self diagnosis test help those recongnize traits of Autism.]


I took a few of these tests before going to my GP. They did help me put my case across instead of me just saying "because everyone else thinks I have it", which isn't that convincing.



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09 Jul 2012, 8:24 am

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I [...] couldn't walk until I was 3 where as Temple [...] couldn't talk until she was 4.

Huh??



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09 Jul 2012, 8:29 am

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I [...] couldn't walk until I was 3 where as Temple [...] couldn't talk until she was 4.

Huh??


Did you read the article in the link I provided or are you just being a smartass?

Click on Temple Grandin!

Msnbc.com: Where do you fall on the autism spectrum?
Temple Grandin: I am much less autistic now, compared to when I was young. I remember some behaviors like picking carpet fuzz and watching spinning plates for hours. I didn’t want to be touched. I couldn’t shut out background noise. I didn’t talk until I was about 4 years old. I screamed. I hummed. But as I grew up, I improved.


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09 Jul 2012, 8:59 am

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bnky wrote:
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I [...] couldn't walk until I was 3 where as Temple [...] couldn't talk until she was 4.

Huh??


Did you read the article in the link I provided or are you just being a smartass?

Click on Temple Grandin!

Msnbc.com: Where do you fall on the autism spectrum?
Temple Grandin: I am much less autistic now, compared to when I was young. I remember some behaviors like picking carpet fuzz and watching spinning plates for hours. I didn’t want to be touched. I couldn’t shut out background noise. I didn’t talk until I was about 4 years old. I screamed. I hummed. But as I grew up, I improved.

I still don't see how walking and talking ages are related. Would you like to enlighten us?



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09 Jul 2012, 9:08 am

bnky wrote:
Dirtdigger wrote:
bnky wrote:
Dirtdigger wrote:
I [...] couldn't walk until I was 3 where as Temple [...] couldn't talk until she was 4.

Huh??


Did you read the article in the link I provided or are you just being a smartass?

Click on Temple Grandin!

Msnbc.com: Where do you fall on the autism spectrum?
Temple Grandin: I am much less autistic now, compared to when I was young. I remember some behaviors like picking carpet fuzz and watching spinning plates for hours. I didn’t want to be touched. I couldn’t shut out background noise. I didn’t talk until I was about 4 years old. I screamed. I hummed. But as I grew up, I improved.

I still don't see how walking and talking ages are related. Would you like to enlighten us?


Huh? Would you enlighten me in what you are trying to tell me? Otherwise, do your research and don't bother me with this.


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09 Jul 2012, 9:08 am

CyborgUprising wrote:
I think it has more to do with the fact that a person outside the medical field doesn't have the credentials to make a diagnosis, thus when a person (who isn't a psychologist or someone else qualified to make a diagnosis) diagnoses themselves with any condition, that person tends to lose credibility among their peers, especially those who were actualy determined to have that specific condition. It's like someone being forgetful and going around telling people they have Alzheimer's (when they don't).


A lot of people really don't have a problem with this. People who do tend not to have very rigorous arguments as to why self-diagnosis is bad and usually end up appealing to authority as the argument.

People diagnose themselves with a lot of things, and often others don't question those diagnoses.



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09 Jul 2012, 9:35 am

Dirtdigger wrote:
bnky wrote:
Dirtdigger wrote:
bnky wrote:
Dirtdigger wrote:
I [...] couldn't walk until I was 3 where as Temple [...] couldn't talk until she was 4.

Huh??


Did you read the article in the link I provided or are you just being a smartass?

Click on Temple Grandin!

Msnbc.com: Where do you fall on the autism spectrum?
Temple Grandin: I am much less autistic now, compared to when I was young. I remember some behaviors like picking carpet fuzz and watching spinning plates for hours. I didn’t want to be touched. I couldn’t shut out background noise. I didn’t talk until I was about 4 years old. I screamed. I hummed. But as I grew up, I improved.

I still don't see how walking and talking ages are related. Would you like to enlighten us?


Huh? Would you enlighten me in what you are trying to tell me? Otherwise, do your research and don't bother me with this.

You were comparing the age at which you learn to walk to the age at which Temple Grandin began to talk. The inferred relationship was yours, not mine. I assumed you had done research on this, as no one else has.



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09 Jul 2012, 9:42 am

I'm thinking it was a typo.



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09 Jul 2012, 9:47 am

Oh, maybe :oops:



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09 Jul 2012, 10:04 am

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I'm thinking it was a typo.


Here is what I say in an earlier post, so what mistake? I didn't see any and I meant what I said.


I don't know if any of you have heard of Temple Grandin that my friend told me about a few days ago, but she is a very amazing woman with Autism. Besides all of the other issues I have with Autism I still pick fuzz off blankets and couldn't walk until I was 3 where as Temple picked fuzz off carpets and couldn't talk until she was 4. Other than these 2 differences the traits she has are the traits I have as well as my other traits. Here is a Link, though I don't know if it will work


However, that bnky person don't make any sense,


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09 Jul 2012, 10:13 am

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jonny23 wrote:
I'm thinking it was a typo.


Here is what I say in an earlier post, so what mistake? I didn't see any and I meant what I said.


I don't know if any of you have heard of Temple Grandin that my friend told me about a few days ago, but she is a very amazing woman with Autism. Besides all of the other issues I have with Autism I still pick fuzz off blankets and couldn't walk until I was 3 where as Temple picked fuzz off carpets and couldn't talk until she was 4. Other than these 2 differences the traits she has are the traits I have as well as my other traits. Here is a Link, though I don't know if it will work


However, that bnky person don't make any sense,

Were you intending to tell us the age at which you first walked or the age at which you first talked?



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09 Jul 2012, 10:28 am

bnky wrote:
Dirtdigger wrote:
jonny23 wrote:
I'm thinking it was a typo.


Here is what I say in an earlier post, so what mistake? I didn't see any and I meant what I said.


I don't know if any of you have heard of Temple Grandin that my friend told me about a few days ago, but she is a very amazing woman with Autism. Besides all of the other issues I have with Autism I still pick fuzz off blankets and couldn't walk until I was 3 where as Temple picked fuzz off carpets and couldn't talk until she was 4. Other than these 2 differences the traits she has are the traits I have as well as my other traits. Here is a Link, though I don't know if it will work


However, that bnky person don't make any sense,

Were you intending to tell us the age at which you first walked or the age at which you first talked?


If you notice that it was me saying that I couldn't walk until 3, but the statement that Temple Grandin made, said she couldn't talk until she was 4. If you guys read the article you should have realized who couldn't walk and who couldn't talk. Read this statement again that I put in this post. I can't get any plainer than this. If you still don't get it asked someone who is smarter than us.


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09 Jul 2012, 10:33 am

Just one more thing-Temple Grandin is the lady's name.


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09 Jul 2012, 12:05 pm

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I think the concept of autism as a spectrum is still threatening to people. There are still people who shriek that people with Aspergers don't have autism and feel threatened when anybody who can live on their own refers to themselves as "autistic." Maybe something similar happens her with those of us who are self-diagnosed. I do think that many of us who are self-diagnosed have fewer autistic traits than those who are, and in general-- although certainly not in all cases-- need less support. When people hear things like Sharron Angle's comment about "everything they want to throw at you is now covered under autism" I think it is also pragmatic to want to defend an Aspergers diagnosis as something that matters.

Also, Aspie is a tribe, odd as that is, and tribes function by exclusion. It is natural for some people, especially those who are still learning to view their AS with pride, to want to exclude the less Aspergian. If I can pass in the NT world, and I can for the most part, what sort of role should I play in the autistic world?

I think one thing the self-diagnosed can do to help is be open about our status, and try not to speak as though we understand everyone else's autism. And try to be welcoming to each other.

Hi.


I completely agree with you. I had a PDD NOS diagnisis in california but I have no insurance not even then so when I moved I had to find another free clinic, they where on a recovery binge and changed my diagnosis to skitzoaffective dissorder then said I only had mild depression issues and would be fine with just grop therapy and I was "I dont . . .like . . to . . talk . . to . . strangers!" I do not agree with this diagnosis change. they told me that I just stop acting that way, I sounded fake. -_- and because of this my best friend does not beleive my autism spectrum traits or my sensory issues, or my irritability with change as me being immature and self-centered. It totally blows.